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AR Suppressor - Need Recs
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:51 pm
I’m sorry. I’m sure it’s been discussed a million times, but I am clueless about the process.
I have a Colt M4 (5.56mm) and want a pretty nice suppressor. What’s the process and what specific suppressor do you folks recommend?
I have a Colt M4 (5.56mm) and want a pretty nice suppressor. What’s the process and what specific suppressor do you folks recommend?
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:21 pm to auwaterfowler
For dedicated 5.56, it’s hard to pass up the YHM Turbo T2 or Turbo K. But I’d highly recommend looking into a .30cal can. Still get good enough suppression on 5.56, and opens the door for other hosts. TBAC Dominus, Dead Air Nomad, Q Trash Panda are some of the more recent offerings from reputable companies that get praise. Silencerco Omega is also a great can.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:30 pm to auwaterfowler
Probably the best you can get would be the Thunderbeast Dominus if you can find one but it’s the best.
Others that are really good but not in any order
Q Thunderchicken or Trash Panda
Dead Air Sandman
Dead Air Nomad
There are plenty of others but those will give you a good starting point.
I will say that I have a Thunderchicken and I think the cherry bomb is the best muzzle device there is.
Others that are really good but not in any order
Q Thunderchicken or Trash Panda
Dead Air Sandman
Dead Air Nomad
There are plenty of others but those will give you a good starting point.
I will say that I have a Thunderchicken and I think the cherry bomb is the best muzzle device there is.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:31 pm to Soul Gleaux
I have a Silencerco .30 cal and it works fine on 5.56 rounds. That’s a good route to take and allows for a 300 blackout platform with the suppressor.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:38 pm to auwaterfowler
Look at the vox-s from Energetic Arms. I just bought one and a Trash Panda. Both are still in jail, but the vox is a lot of can for the money and I believe will be better suited on a 5.56 than the trash panda. I’ll be running a Q Plan B with it. The Deadair Sandman-s gets a lot of love and I’ve read they are bomb proof but they’re a bit heavier than two I mentioned.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 9:44 pm to auwaterfowler
Visit https://www.silencershop.com/
This post was edited on 9/22/20 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 9/23/20 at 6:52 am to auwaterfowler
Obviously your first can. Go find someone with one and shoot it. You will likely be disappointed if you are basing your expectations off of TV or movies. You will still need ear protection with a 5.56 can. Unless you have a specific purpose in mind. I tell people to buy a .22 can first, have fun with it and then jump to center fire rifle after if you still want it.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:35 am to jbgleason
I want to be able to shoot foxes and coyotes at night around my house without scaring the piss out of neighbors. I know it won’t be whisper quiet, but it will certainly be better than raw dogging.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:43 am to auwaterfowler
Ah. You have a specific need. Go forth and conquer. I have numerous cans and the above rec for YHM is solid. You don't need a $1,200 SureFire or something designed for combat full auto usage for your needs unless you just want that and have cash to burn.
Given your stated purpose, I would take a hard look at .300 Blackout. I have a SureFire and a ThunderBeast arms .300 BO can and they are really, really quiet with the subs.
Given your stated purpose, I would take a hard look at .300 Blackout. I have a SureFire and a ThunderBeast arms .300 BO can and they are really, really quiet with the subs.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:59 am to auwaterfowler
I'm kinda in the same boat but I have a 30 cal need. I have a 5.56 and a 7.62.
I've decided the Trash Panda is the ideal silencer for what I'm looking for, but they are very difficult to find and hella expensive right now when you do find them. Probably not a realistic purchase unless I'm willing to wait a lot longer before I take possession. More than just the wait for the tax stamp to clear.
I think what I will end up with is a SilencerCo Omega 300 or Omega 36M.
My thought process is to get a higher quality can. I could go out and find one a few hundred cheaper, but I want one that is built more solidly with Titanium or Ti and Stainless baffles. I'll spend the $300-$500 more to get what I really want especially since the tax stamp is a flat cost and I'm guessing a lesser grade can will leave me wanting a better one in the end anyway.
I see guys saying you still need hearing protection even with silencers, but I've been around guys shooting 6.5's and 5.56's and it was not bad on the ears. We were in an open area and not in a controlled environment though.
One thing that caught me off guard was the amount of heat the suppressor absorbs with just a few rounds. They get sizzling hot with just a few rounds. Makes sense, but just never thought about it.
As far as the process, you find the suppressor you want and pay for the suppressor and tax stamp at the same time. If the can has to be ordered, you pay for the can and FFL fee, then you can't file for the stamp until the dealer has the can in their possession. So if the suppressor is back ordered, you wait for the suppressor to come in, then the NFA clearance wait time starts. It's not possible to serve the wait time concurrently. They have to have the suppressor and serial number in hand to file the paperwork. Once they send the paperwork off, then you wait.
Our local dealer will let you go shoot the suppressor on their range, but you cannot leave the premises with the suppressor until the paperwork clears.
Anyone who has actually gone through the process, please clarify if any of this is inaccurate as I'm a noob to suppression as well.
I've decided the Trash Panda is the ideal silencer for what I'm looking for, but they are very difficult to find and hella expensive right now when you do find them. Probably not a realistic purchase unless I'm willing to wait a lot longer before I take possession. More than just the wait for the tax stamp to clear.
I think what I will end up with is a SilencerCo Omega 300 or Omega 36M.
My thought process is to get a higher quality can. I could go out and find one a few hundred cheaper, but I want one that is built more solidly with Titanium or Ti and Stainless baffles. I'll spend the $300-$500 more to get what I really want especially since the tax stamp is a flat cost and I'm guessing a lesser grade can will leave me wanting a better one in the end anyway.
I see guys saying you still need hearing protection even with silencers, but I've been around guys shooting 6.5's and 5.56's and it was not bad on the ears. We were in an open area and not in a controlled environment though.
One thing that caught me off guard was the amount of heat the suppressor absorbs with just a few rounds. They get sizzling hot with just a few rounds. Makes sense, but just never thought about it.
As far as the process, you find the suppressor you want and pay for the suppressor and tax stamp at the same time. If the can has to be ordered, you pay for the can and FFL fee, then you can't file for the stamp until the dealer has the can in their possession. So if the suppressor is back ordered, you wait for the suppressor to come in, then the NFA clearance wait time starts. It's not possible to serve the wait time concurrently. They have to have the suppressor and serial number in hand to file the paperwork. Once they send the paperwork off, then you wait.
Our local dealer will let you go shoot the suppressor on their range, but you cannot leave the premises with the suppressor until the paperwork clears.
Anyone who has actually gone through the process, please clarify if any of this is inaccurate as I'm a noob to suppression as well.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:35 am to Soul Gleaux
so a basic 30cal supressor is able to be used on a wide range of calibers?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:47 am to auwaterfowler
Surefire RC2
KAC QDC
Both have great muzzle devices to choose from and top notch locking collars, with the Knight's being the newest in terms of locking tech. Both will take whatever you throw at them.
KAC QDC
Both have great muzzle devices to choose from and top notch locking collars, with the Knight's being the newest in terms of locking tech. Both will take whatever you throw at them.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:02 am to mikeytig
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so a basic 30cal supressor is able to be used on a wide range of calibers?
There are manufacturer’s restrictions on the various cans, based on design, what its made of, etc. But for the most part any round with a bullet .30cal or smaller. (.308, 300BLK, 6.5 creedmoor, 5.56 to name a few.)
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:26 am to Damone
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Surefire RC2
quote:
KAC QDC
I think you just managed to list the two most expensive cans made. Neither of which is particularly quiet. Both of those are designed for max durability in a combat environment which is kind of the opposite of what OP asked about (hunting use, low round count, max suppression).
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:27 am to jbgleason
Oh, I saw that he had a Colt 5.56 and those are knee-jerk reactions for that gun.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:49 am to jbgleason
Yeah that’s definitely going big for a first can. The surefires are very solid cans though. Durable as all hell, minimal blowback, and minimal change in the point of impact. Also their muzzle devices are super easy to use and lock tight. But you’re looking at at least 1k for an rc2/mini, another 200 for the stamp, and 100 plus for the muzzle device. That’s the reason I only have one lol.
Hard to go wrong with a turbo k to be honest. Price is right, built well enough, and offer good suppression. I don’t have any experience with the knights, but knowing knights they’re even more expensive than the surefire.
Hard to go wrong with a turbo k to be honest. Price is right, built well enough, and offer good suppression. I don’t have any experience with the knights, but knowing knights they’re even more expensive than the surefire.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:53 am to MattA
It's not cheap but I went cheaper on my first can looking for a do-it-all solution and regret it.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:53 am to auwaterfowler
Surefire SOCOM RC2 \Thread
Posted on 9/23/20 at 11:04 am to Damone
Understand totally. I went surefire mini in a dedicated 5.56 can. It only sees two guns and really only one gun these days. A 14.5 franken build with a DD barrel. The other gun is a 10.3 mk18 clonish type rifle.
It’s an absolute dream to shoot on the 14.5.
It’s an absolute dream to shoot on the 14.5.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 12:12 pm to Soul Gleaux
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Silencerco Omega is also a great can.
just ordered one of these in 9mm
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