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Am I going to have trouble towing or launching a 21’ bass boat?
Posted on 3/20/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/20/21 at 1:55 pm
I’m currently driving a Silverado with the 4.8 V8. It also has the 410 rear end. It drive my 19’ boat well, but I’m about to make the upgrade to a Phoenix 921. I think it will do decent driving up and down the hills around Rayburn and Toledo. My main concern comes with having trouble getting it out of the launch with tires spinning and stopping the heavier boat.
Anyone have experience with this?
Anyone have experience with this?
Posted on 3/20/21 at 2:01 pm to nugget
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Silverado with the 4.8 V8.
What year? I had a 2006 4.8 with the 373 rear end and it didn’t tow my 19’ bass boat worth a crap. The 4 speed transmission didn’t help.
This post was edited on 3/20/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 3/20/21 at 2:32 pm to nugget
I can only tell you of my experience with the 06 4.8. I had a 2wd. There was one evening in Henderson where I returned to the boat ramp as the sun was going down. I had launched at McGee's landing. It's not exactly a steep ramp. Well, I was the only one left in the parking lot. I trailered the boat and put the truck in drive. Started up the ramp when all of a sudden I came to a dead stop and started spinning out. Tried backing up and coming up the ramp at different angles thinking there was a pot hole on the ramp under the water. No good. Got out of my truck, took my shoes off and walked down into the water thinking I'd find a log or something lodged under my trailer tires. Nothing. Couldn't figure it out. Mosquitoes were eating me alive and there was nobody around to assist. Still couldn't get the boat up the ramp. I called someone to come help. Before they got there I was suddenly able to get up the ramp. Like magic.
That night I decided to never be without a 4x4 from here on.
That damn truck struggled to pull my boat out of even the shallow grade ramps.
That night I decided to never be without a 4x4 from here on.
That damn truck struggled to pull my boat out of even the shallow grade ramps.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 2:37 pm to PillageUrVillage
That’s exactly what I’m worried about. It’s going to be even worse than you with the 410 rear end. Tough pill to swallow when I’m about to dump a pretty petty on a boat
Posted on 3/20/21 at 3:04 pm to PillageUrVillage
I had a similar experience at the New Roads launch. I got out to see why I was spinning, and noticed catfish slime covering my tires! Someone had cleaned catfish and dumped the guts all over the ramp.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 4:11 pm to nugget
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410 rear end
Should pull just fine
Posted on 3/20/21 at 4:17 pm to nugget
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That’s exactly what I’m worried about. It’s going to be even worse than you with the 410 rear end. Tough pill to swallow when I’m about to dump a pretty petty on a boat
Actually the lower gears should give you more control coming up the launch. You don't have to gas it as hard to get torque.
If you ever find yourself spinning just one tire in a situation like pulling a boat up a launch, try engaging the emergency brake about half way. If you have a limited slip differential that should make both wheels spin together.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 5:53 pm to nugget
Also turn off that auto traction thing anti skid or whatever. Was spinning in some mud the other day and it was dropping power to a wheel or some shite. Took me a minute to figure out what was happening.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 5:55 pm to nugget
Pulled around a 17' bay boat with a 94 Chevrolet 2 wheel drive with a 4.6 v6 and it did fine. You'll be fine. You won't be able to go 80 up the sunshine Bridge or anything but it'll pull the boat easily.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 9:30 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Install a rear locker. They are not that terribly priced.
That would give you the ability to lock the rear diff from the cab.
Eaton makes a good electric locker
That would give you the ability to lock the rear diff from the cab.
Eaton makes a good electric locker
Posted on 3/20/21 at 10:27 pm to nugget
I've pulled a 21ft boat with a Chevy Trailblazer. I currently pull one with a Chevy Colorado no with no problem.
Posted on 3/20/21 at 10:50 pm to nugget
I pull a Stratos 201 Pro with a 1990 F150 with a 302 and a 5 speed. I swapped to 4.10 gears and a factory limited slip from an Explorer and don't have any problems. If your current 19' boat is Fiberglass then at most you may be adding 500 lbs with the Phoenix.
Posted on 3/21/21 at 9:33 am to Bama Shadow
It will be more than 500 lbs. Going from a 175 Evinrude 2 stroke to a 250 SHO is going to eat up a lot of that.
Posted on 3/22/21 at 8:07 am to nugget
You should be fine a lot of people will tell you to get a 4x4 or something bigger. Dont. Most of the people telling you this don't even have a boat. I have a PHOENIX bass boat and I live in south louisiana. That being said the boat ramps are not too steep. But I do fish Toledo and Raburn As other northern lakes. That is what D1 & D2 are for. This will gear down your truck and make your tires bight harder while trying not to spin out. Lastly that 4.8l Is powerful enough. that boat will cost you 75k brand new dont need to spend another 65+ on a new truck. unless you want too. To each his own. Have fun FISHING!Lastly that PHOENIX you will fall in love with!
This post was edited on 3/22/21 at 8:15 am
Posted on 3/22/21 at 8:52 am to nugget
quote:I am confused about why this is a concern. If the tires spin, the engine isn't the issue.
My main concern comes with having trouble getting it out of the launch with tires spinning and stopping the heavier boat.
My last two trucks have been 2WD(Since 2015). My previous ones(since 1993) were 4WD. I never used the 4WD feature, so I stopped buying it. Not sure when it started, but the manufacturers have gotten really good at limited slip differentials. I have zero issue getting my boats out. If I do feel spinning which happens on occasion, I ease off the accelerator, then hit it again much more slowly. Once you get momentum, you can speed up with no problem.
Posted on 3/22/21 at 9:42 am to AlxTgr
Extra heavy set of truck nuts work wonders at the ramp for traction control.
Posted on 3/22/21 at 3:15 pm to Jimbo1975
If you really fish all around South LA sometimes is not about how steep it is. Try to pull the boat out when the Launch is full of smashed lillies and get back to me if you don't need a 4x4. ??
Posted on 3/22/21 at 4:54 pm to nugget
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Going from a 175 Evinrude 2 stroke to a 250 SHO is going to eat up a lot of that.
This might not mean much. The Yamaha Sho 200, 225, and 250 all are exactly the same size and weigh the same. The only difference is the ECU card.
I pulled my bass boat with a 2WD truck for years. Only got into trouble once. I continued to fish in the rain until the lightning came. Back tires kept spinning on the wet steep ramp. Lucky for me two guys came and got in the back of my truck and I was able to get it out. I did not buy a new truck immediately but I was much more conscious to the situation from that point forward. My next truck years later was 4WD.
This post was edited on 3/22/21 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 3/22/21 at 4:57 pm to ctiger69
Similar with the hpdi.
I gained 5mph with an Ecu upgrade and control arm only.
I gained 5mph with an Ecu upgrade and control arm only.
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