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re: 9MM or .40 pistol recommendations
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:44 pm to rebelrouser
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:44 pm to rebelrouser
If you shoot someone with a 9mm or a 40cal, will they be able to tell the difference if they not dead? Stick with a 9mm. If you want bigger get a 45. No sense in spending more for ammo because someone says its has more knockdown power. You can knock down anything with a 9mm.
Ole boy killed a Brown bear with one in 5 or 6 shots. Leave the 40cal to someone that doesnt know better.
Ole boy killed a Brown bear with one in 5 or 6 shots. Leave the 40cal to someone that doesnt know better.
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 2:42 pm to Mr. Hangover
9mm. Skip the Sig P250. Either go with a P320 (polymer), a P226 (full size all metal) or P229 ("mid-sized" all metal).
If you don't want a Sig, get a Glock 17 or Glock 19 - I'm not saying it's the be all, end all, but you simply cannot go wrong with those choices.
I like Ruger weapons, generally, but in this category I think the choice is relatively clear - Sig (P320 or classic series), Glock (17 or 19) OR, perhaps a M&P from Smith and Wesson. There are other fine choices, but you don't know what you don't know - when you consider the percentage of military and LE folks carrying 1 of those options (about the only other strong contender is the Beretta 92 with those 3), then at least you know it's a good, consensus choice.
If you don't want a Sig, get a Glock 17 or Glock 19 - I'm not saying it's the be all, end all, but you simply cannot go wrong with those choices.
I like Ruger weapons, generally, but in this category I think the choice is relatively clear - Sig (P320 or classic series), Glock (17 or 19) OR, perhaps a M&P from Smith and Wesson. There are other fine choices, but you don't know what you don't know - when you consider the percentage of military and LE folks carrying 1 of those options (about the only other strong contender is the Beretta 92 with those 3), then at least you know it's a good, consensus choice.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:34 pm to Ace Midnight
Well put Midnight.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:57 pm to Mr. Hangover
I have the S&W M&P .40 and love it. Great shooting gun, no jams after about 500 rounds through it.
It's double stack so the smaller mag holds 12 and the pinky extension mad holds 15 I believe. It's small enough you can carry it if neede, but plenty large to hold sufficient ammo and easy to grip. Definitely would recommend.
And I bought it for $450 barely used, new it's right around $500
ETA: pay attention to action type. I find striker fired the easiest to shoot accurately.
It's double stack so the smaller mag holds 12 and the pinky extension mad holds 15 I believe. It's small enough you can carry it if neede, but plenty large to hold sufficient ammo and easy to grip. Definitely would recommend.
And I bought it for $450 barely used, new it's right around $500
ETA: pay attention to action type. I find striker fired the easiest to shoot accurately.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:02 pm to BeauxNArreaux
no love for a cz75 9mm ??
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:09 pm to BeauxNArreaux
I was just looking at the S&W MP, it really looks like a solid gun but I kind of have my mind set on the FN FNS 9mm
The Smith & Wesson would probably be my second choice
From all the reading I've done I've come to the conclusion that glock owners are VERY loyal to their brand.. is this a valid assumption?
The Smith & Wesson would probably be my second choice
From all the reading I've done I've come to the conclusion that glock owners are VERY loyal to their brand.. is this a valid assumption?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:13 pm to Carson123987
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HK VP9
I enjoy shooting all my guns, but this is definitely one of my favorites. Well, until the boating accident.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:38 pm to flvelo12
I'll be looking at guns nonstop between now and Christmas so I'm sure I'll be popping in every now and then, but I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who offered advice and opinions in this thread..
Posted on 12/9/16 at 5:53 am to Mr. Hangover
If you went with G19 you would more than likely spend another $150 yanking the sights and replacing
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:13 am to skuter
Thread Hijack.
anyone have experience with the Grand Power line? specifically the P1 and K100?
been between them and the VP9. the grand power definitely has something intriguing about it though.
anyone have experience with the Grand Power line? specifically the P1 and K100?
been between them and the VP9. the grand power definitely has something intriguing about it though.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:27 am to donRANDOMnumbers
Hey man go hijack someone else's thread 
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:14 am to Mr. Hangover
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I was just looking at the S&W MP, it really looks like a solid gun but I kind of have my mind set on the FN FNS 9mm
The Smith & Wesson would probably be my second choice
Both are extremely old firearms manufacturers and make an excellent product. I know because I own the FNS9, an M&P Core, and an M&P compact that I carry.
I will say that as far as factory triggers, the FNS9 is miles better than the M&P. I have trigger kits in my M&P handguns that cost around $100 so adding that to your price ceiling it's not as good of a value.
The FNS9 also comes with 3 magazines instead of just two so you save about $30-40 right there as well. I don't think you'll have any complaints with the FNS9. It's an excellent basic handgun. I would strongly advise you get the one without the manual thumb safety. In these two pictures, the top one has the thumb safety and the bottom one doesn't:
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From all the reading I've done I've come to the conclusion that glock owners are VERY loyal to their brand.. is this a valid assumption?
The sensible ones realize that "Glock or nothing" is a bit of a ridiculous mindset to have. But the less educated ones think every single other handgun on the planet is a piece of crap no matter how much longer the manufacturer has been making firearms. FN has been making guns for over 120 years and supplies most of the weapons our military uses, so don't feel like you're being shorted by not getting a Glock. FN products are more than capable.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:29 pm to bapple
I'm starting to realize that for the most part, most guns will perform the same, it's just about the little features and details that YOU like... with that being said, why don't you like the thumb safety?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 12:53 pm to Mr. Hangover
Safeties give people a false sense of security and also might delay the use of the gun when you really need it. Only the 1911 with its cocked and locked setting needs a safety. Always assume a gun is loaded, don't point it at anything you aren't willing to hit, and don't put your finger on the trigger until ready to shoot is all the safety you need.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:02 pm to Who Me
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Get a Glock or S&W Shield. Make sure and purchase some good hollow points for carry rounds
Don't get a Shield for your first handgun. Especially if you don't intend to conceal carry.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:29 pm to upgrayedd
Read my next post after that.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:34 pm to Who Me
I have the S&W M&P shield performance center 9mm for CC and I love it! I also have the S&W SD9VE for home defense and love it as well!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:36 pm to Mr. Hangover
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with that being said, why don't you like the thumb safety?
Rebelrouser hits on one important point and I'll expand on the rest of it a bit.
Handguns are designed to be carried in holsters with the trigger protected. Rifles and shotguns always have their triggers exposed and risk being discharged negligently or accidentally, which is why all of them have some type of manual safety. When a handgun is in a holster, the trigger is completely protected and the added step of disengaging the safety isn't necessary. If you have a gun with a manual safety and don't practice turning it on and off when coming in and out of a holster, you WILL forget to turn it off if you have to draw it in self defense. You will have too much adrenaline going through your body to remember small steps that you have not practiced. Muscle memory will take over and you will do whatever is your default action.
So for me, neither of my carry guns have manual safeties. And the reason is that I do not want the added step of turning it off when I need it to go "bang" immediately. My holster protects the trigger so as long as it stays in there when it's on my body, I am completely safe and comfortable.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 1:59 pm to igchris
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Have you ever shot that pistol from retention? Ouch.
Carson has a ported core and said the same thing when he took a pistol class.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 2:31 pm to bapple
Awesome thanks for the info guys... I'll be sure to keep that in mind when purchasing
Explain please
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Have you ever shot that pistol from retention? Ouch.
Explain please
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 2:33 pm
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