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re: 2WD vs 4WD
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:28 pm to auggie
Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:28 pm to auggie
quote:Wouldnt the boat still be floating...and if the winds are leeward they will be shoving you up the launch with a helluva lot more force than the little bit of water that may have lapped into your boat.
Tell you what, try pulling your boat out of the water, on a steep boat ramp, when a sudden storm blows up, and you get your boat on the trailer, but the waves are washing over the back of your boat,
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Posted on 4/14/20 at 8:58 pm to tigerfoot
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Wouldnt the boat still be floating...and if the winds are leeward they will be shoving you up the launch with a helluva lot more force than the little bit of water that may have lapped into your boat.
Boat still floating? little bit of water? lapped into your boat? wind shoving you up the ramp?
You get some 4 foot waves, blowin in your big flat bottom boat, and if you spend enough time at the river, you are going to have that happen one day, you can end up with a couple hundred gallons of water (1600 lbs.) or more, in your boat pretty fast. It's a bad situation, and I have been in it before, I have also seen it happen to other experienced commercial guys, who didn't have enough truck. I chained up to their trucks front bumper, and helped them up the ramp. The wind aint going to push you up a steep arse ramp. you have to have something that can pull it out.
If you do enough stuff, you will run into incredible situations now and then, that you never would have planned for. If you're lucky, you have the right gear, to get your arse out of a crack. If you don't have the right shite, or somebody else there to help you out, you are screwed.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:29 pm to auggie
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If you think a Honda Ridgeline, stacks up to a 4wd truck, you better keep your arse on the pavement. You damn sure, better not hook up to an equipment trailer and go pick up any custom lumber from the little sawmill over the mountain, or load up your tractor and bushhog, to take it anywhere.
What the hell are you talking about? OP asked about a truck to tow a small fishing boat around DFW and you are incoherently babbling about sawmills up mountains and trailering tractors and bushhogs?
Did a Ridgeline steal your girlfriend and run over your dog or something?Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:42 pm to DeoreDX
quote:
OP asked about a truck
OP asked about trucks, and 4wd vs. 2wd. That, doesn't include an AWD glorified SUV, which is what a Ridgeline is. It's Based on the Honda Pilot, which is a unibody SUV. They extended some frame rails towards the rear and made a car/ truck.
When people are asking about trucks and 4wd. A Honda Pilot/ Ridgeline, doesn't belong in the conversation, no matter how much you want it to. It has a transverse mounted engine for pete's sake.
Why didn't they just make it out of a minivan?This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 4/14/20 at 9:50 pm to DeoreDX
quote:
What the hell are you talking about? OP asked about a truck to tow a small fishing boat around DFW and you are incoherently babbling about sawmills up mountains and trailering tractors and bushhogs?
If you don't drive an F350 dually 4wd you're basically just going to die if you leave the pavement. Drive what you want, but it's your funeral.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 10:04 pm to Flats
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If you don't drive an F350 dually 4wd you're basically just going to die if you leave the pavement. Drive what you want, but it's your funeral.
OK clown, I never once suggested that OP get anything more than a small truck, I only advised that he get 4wd, so he has the low range in the transfer case, that feature can be a life saver. A honda pilot/ridgeline doesn't have a transfer case, or a low range. Hell, the bed is made together with the cabin, that should be a huge tip off that it isn't a truck. Those are facts. I'm sorry that you can't comprehend the difference.
That's OK, if you live in suburbia and live a soccer mom lifestyle, the honda pilot/ridgeline, will probably work well enough for you.
Posted on 4/14/20 at 11:40 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
I have a 2WD Tundra. I never go off-road and don’t need 4WD. I picked the 2WD bc it was cheaper, less mechanical parts to break, and made a heavy truck a tad lighter.
My next truck will be 4WD.
My next truck will be 4WD.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 7:47 am to auggie
quote:oh
You get some 4 foot waves
Never mind
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:26 am to auggie
quote:
so he has the low range in the transfer case, that feature can be a life saver.
So if you are dumb enough to put in or out while there are 4 ft waves crashing over the back of your boat you need low range. Got it.
I'm not that dumb so I've never had to use my low range to pull a boat out. Even the time I dropped the trailer into the rip rap off the end of the ramp I didn't use low range. I've been in the algae in the old 1WD F250 and have had to ask some folks to sit in the back of the truck for more traction to pull out. Traction is king and AWD just gives you way more traction than even locked 2WD or traditional 4WD. Not sure about the G2 but G1's came stock with a transmission cooler.
Towing our 22' pontoon or old Mastercraft Prostar 190 has been no problem.
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Hell, the bed is made together with the cabin, that should be a huge tip off that it isn't a truck.
OK Eric Cartman. It also has a big arse trunk and a tailgate that opens sideways. Two truck features you didn't know you need until you have them. Makes a world of difference for a daily driver. Golf clubs in the trunk without having to take up cargo space or the back seat is a truck gamechanger.
Trunk is also great for having a secure hidden place to transport guns when going to the range or just traveling with guns in general.
This post was edited on 4/15/20 at 8:28 am
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:34 am to auggie
quote:
That's OK, if you live in suburbia and live a soccer mom lifestyle, the honda pilot/ridgeline, will probably work well enough for you.
As an Alabama native strange you woudn't want to support a vehicle built locally and so important to Alabama's economy. It's usually at the top of the list for highest domestic content of any pickup truck on the market. Buy American support your local economy and get a Ridgeline.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:38 am to DeoreDX
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I didn't use low range.
I don't get that either. I have owned a 4WD of some sort since the late 70's and they all had 4 LO and I can't remember ever needing it...I had a 30 foot center console with twin 250s and my F350 would drag that thing up a beach ramp at low tide in 4 HI...a beach ramp being a ramp with a layer of sand and mud for the last 10 feet cause the concrete is out of water....My GMC 3500 has a locking rear differential....in 4 LO I am pretty certain the truck would break before the damn drivetrain cam apart...it is spooky skeery torque in 4 LO...I can't begin to imagine being in a situation where it would help matters and I drag a 20 foot enclosed trailer into plowed fields regularly with that truck....
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:44 am to DeoreDX
You fricking idiot, when you work on the river all day, every day, conditions change. A nice morning can turn into a bad afternoon. If you are underwater, because that's how you make your living, storms can come up and catch you by surprise. I know, you wouldn't know about anything like that.
Like I said, that pilot/ridgline, will work for your soccer mom lifestyle.
You need to hide your weapons, when going to a range? What kind of Cucked up life do you live?
Like I said, that pilot/ridgline, will work for your soccer mom lifestyle.
quote:
Trunk is also great for having a secure hidden place to transport guns when going to the range or just traveling with guns in general.
You need to hide your weapons, when going to a range? What kind of Cucked up life do you live?
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:44 am to auggie
quote:Never said that.
If you think a Honda Ridgeline, stacks up to a 4wd truck, you better keep your arse on the pavement.
quote:bullshite.
and you have a small boat and never put in at any steep arse rough boat ramps, like you will find in different places, then your ridgeline might be fine.
quote:Now you're just being intellectually dishonest.
So, They won't work for that? That's worse than I thought.
Not sure if you're just dumb or an a-hole or both.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:45 am to auggie
quote:Oh good God. Yep, you're a moron a-hole.
You get some 4 foot waves,
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:53 am to Gtmodawg
I probably use the locking rear end of my FX4 more than the 4wd. I own a timber tract that has a decent road but has a few rutted sections. When its sloppy I will pop in it 4hi for good measure. Like others have said 4wd really comes in handy if you own a boat. I have been to several ramps where your rear tires are on the slick stuff and having the 4wd makes all the difference. Saw a couple 2wd trucks damn near launch along with the boat as the driver hit the gas and lost traction at the ramp. It really doesn't cost that much extra on a new vehicle.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 8:56 am to AlxTgr
quote:
Now you're just being intellectually dishonest. Not sure if you're just dumb or an a-hole or both.
So you didn't like me quoting your words?
I don't much care, what your opinion of me is. You seem like a feeble frick. Enjoy your car/truck vehicle.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:00 am to auggie
quote:
You need to hide your weapons, when going to a range? What kind of Cucked up life do you live?
Alabama Code Title 13A. Criminal Code § 13A-11-73
(a) Except on land under his or her control or in his or her own abode or his or her own fixed place of business, no person shall carry a pistol in any vehicle or concealed on or about his or her person without a permit issued under Section 13A-11-75(a)(1) or recognized under Section 13A-11-85 .
(b) Except as otherwise prohibited by law, a person legally permitted to possess a pistol, but who does not possess a valid concealed weapon permit, may possess an unloaded pistol in his or her motor vehicle if the pistol is locked in a compartment or container that is in or affixed securely to the vehicle and out of reach of the driver and any passenger in the vehicle.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:02 am to auggie
quote:So, you are so fricking dishonest that you're taking this tact? Damn man. Just own up to it and maybe you can get past this.
So you didn't like me quoting your words?
quote:Based on what?
You seem like a feeble frick
quote:See, you don't even fricking pat attention. I have a 1/2 ton Ram.
Enjoy your car/truck vehicle.
Go make us fries.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:04 am to AlxTgr
quote:
quote:You get some 4 foot waves,
Oh good God. Yep, you're a moron a-hole.
So, you've never encountered anything like that? Why am I not surprised?
You probably always put your boat in, at the same marina, or on a little ramp on a narrow arse little bayou.
You are inexperienced, I get it. That's why you would think that a ridgeline is fine, because you don't know any better.
Posted on 4/15/20 at 9:17 am to bayoudude
quote:
I probably use the locking rear end of my FX4 more than the 4wd. I own a timber tract that has a decent road but has a few rutted sections. When its sloppy I will pop in it 4hi for good measure. Like others have said 4wd really comes in handy if you own a boat. I have been to several ramps where your rear tires are on the slick stuff and having the 4wd makes all the difference. Saw a couple 2wd trucks damn near launch along with the boat as the driver hit the gas and lost traction at the ramp. It really doesn't cost that much extra on a new vehicle.
I have launched at ramps at low tide where the entire vehicle would be on snot....very difficult to pull a boat out of that situation but whats really skeery is when you are creeping down the ramp, stand on the brakes, all 4 tires lock up and you ain't slowed down a bit....that'll pucker you up right quick. Ice will do the same thing. Luckily, in my experience, when the boat starts floating there is enough resistance to stop the truck...I ain't never gone in the drink but it could well happen when you are retrieving the boat with an empty trailer....the trailer doesn't offer the same kind of resistance as the boat does in the water. I launch in the snow pretty regularly and it is always an adventure!
I also launch at what the state of Washington and Oregon refer to as "Unimproved boat launch(s)" which are really just places where there is a road, for better lack of a word because it would be unseemly to call it a goat trail, that is reasonably close to the water in an area where the bank isn't a 70 degree slope to the water....some of these places you ain't launching anything without a winch on the truck or another vehicle to drag the truck back up the hill......
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