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250 / 2500 Diesel Truck Question
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:05 pm
My friends all tell me the newer diesel trucks don't last longer than 100,000 miles and they have to constantly trade them in when warranty is up or they will lose money. My regular sized gas burners always last me 200,000 miles.
Are new diesels that crappy? What is the amount of miles one could expect out of a diesel and what kind of expenses (not normal maintenance) it would take to get 200,000 miles out of one?
Any insight would be helpful. I just cannot understand buying a truck that will only last 100,000 miles and that be the norm.
Are new diesels that crappy? What is the amount of miles one could expect out of a diesel and what kind of expenses (not normal maintenance) it would take to get 200,000 miles out of one?
Any insight would be helpful. I just cannot understand buying a truck that will only last 100,000 miles and that be the norm.
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:10 pm to lsu13lsu
quote:probably because your friends are financing for 72-84 months
they have to constantly trade them in when warranty is up or they will lose money.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:14 pm to mylsuhat
haha, they don't do that. They just say you don't want to own a modern diesel when it goes out of warranty and it is best to just trade it in.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:15 pm to mylsuhat
I know when I bought my last truck I picked up a 6.2 f250.
No way in hell could o afford to repair diesel now. fricking f250 fuel system a buddy replaced (under warranty) when his fuel pump came apart and sent shrapnel through the fuel system cost $8000...
I went, hmm about that gasser.
It does what I want. I do wish I had the 4.30s but it's fine.
No way in hell could o afford to repair diesel now. fricking f250 fuel system a buddy replaced (under warranty) when his fuel pump came apart and sent shrapnel through the fuel system cost $8000...
I went, hmm about that gasser.
It does what I want. I do wish I had the 4.30s but it's fine.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:18 pm to lsu13lsu
Probably related to DEF and regening. Exhaust systems are bogging down diesels in the name of air quality.
The bigger problems coming up for personal diesel trucks that are gonna drive down demand for them imo, unless absolutely warranted, is the new oceanic shipping low sulfur act or whatever they are calling it.
I dont know if the current world processing power for low sulfur is gonna be able to keep up and I see prices shooting up. Although west texas blowing up like it is will help with supply if we can process it all. Gonna be interesting, I'm fixing to get a Ram but the 2500s are so nice.
The bigger problems coming up for personal diesel trucks that are gonna drive down demand for them imo, unless absolutely warranted, is the new oceanic shipping low sulfur act or whatever they are calling it.
I dont know if the current world processing power for low sulfur is gonna be able to keep up and I see prices shooting up. Although west texas blowing up like it is will help with supply if we can process it all. Gonna be interesting, I'm fixing to get a Ram but the 2500s are so nice.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:18 pm to thejudge
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No way in hell could o afford to repair diesel now. fricking f250 fuel system a buddy replaced (under warranty) when his fuel pump came apart and sent shrapnel through the fuel system cost $8000...
Yeah, that is what I am hearing. All kinds of expensive things that break now. So, when I run the numbers, it makes no sense to own one for these prices unless you plan on keeping for a long time; however, repair costs are too high and often.
I guess if you own your own business and it is a tax writeoff then it would make sense.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:31 pm to lsu13lsu
problems with new diesels all boil down to the exhaust recycling systems the gov't mandates they add on. remove that and the problems seem to all disappear.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 1:48 pm to Masterag
Think Downshiftandfloorit hit it when he said most people don't drive them hard enough for the engine to go through the regen process. IMO, 95% of the ones i see around town are pavement trucks for stop light to stop light.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:23 pm to lsu13lsu
Ford is replacing the 6.2 gas engine with a new 7.0 for the Super Duty. All new design rumored to have DOHC, high hp and torque. Also rumored to be in 2020 Raptor!
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:33 pm to cajuncarguy
So what’s your recommendation? Go with the gas burner in 3/4 ton trucks?
I don’t tow enough to justify the additional costs of a diesel.
I don’t tow enough to justify the additional costs of a diesel.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:41 pm to Biloxi Bacon
Go with a gas burner HD truck if you dont need the diesel.
All of the big 3 make a great gasser hd truck right now. They are tremendously more reliable and powerful than the late 90's ones were
All of the big 3 make a great gasser hd truck right now. They are tremendously more reliable and powerful than the late 90's ones were
Posted on 1/18/19 at 2:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Go with a gas burner HD truck if you dont need the diesel.
What would be someone that needs a diesel? Someone running a hotshot business or pulls large camper? I cannot think of many people that would absolutely need one.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 3:02 pm to lsu13lsu
Yes. If you stay hooked up to big shite (as in 75% of your mileage) you need a diesel. If it's a commercial truck you need the higher load rating. Theres lots of applications where they are absolutely necessary.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 4:20 pm to lsu13lsu
I have an F250 Powerstroke. Honestly the engine... including injectors... has been fine. 162K miles in 4 years. Fair amount of towing including to/from NW Colorado with dual axle trailer and 9500 lb loads.
With that said this truck has been in the shop for all kinds of issues mostly EGR sensors. All have been replaced at least 3 times and an engine light came on again 2 days ago. Like someone said in the thread... it is the exhaust gas emissions bullshite that is the problem. F250 engine is fine. Fuel pump, EGR sensors, crappy front rotors, in Sync system, etc... not so much. First and last Ford diesel for me mostly because it takes a m8n of 2 days to get even an EGR replaced. Not enough Ford diesel techs.
Honest answer.
With that said this truck has been in the shop for all kinds of issues mostly EGR sensors. All have been replaced at least 3 times and an engine light came on again 2 days ago. Like someone said in the thread... it is the exhaust gas emissions bullshite that is the problem. F250 engine is fine. Fuel pump, EGR sensors, crappy front rotors, in Sync system, etc... not so much. First and last Ford diesel for me mostly because it takes a m8n of 2 days to get even an EGR replaced. Not enough Ford diesel techs.
Honest answer.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:35 pm to Tridentds
Once out of warranty, do the EGR delete and you'll do fine.
I have a 250 gasser and am actually thinking of trading for a Diesel. The gasser works extremely hard pulling my salt boat.
I kick myself in the nuts daily for sell that ole bullet proof 7.3 I had.
I have a 250 gasser and am actually thinking of trading for a Diesel. The gasser works extremely hard pulling my salt boat.
I kick myself in the nuts daily for sell that ole bullet proof 7.3 I had.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 5:52 pm to lsu13lsu
In my family
04 duramax 415k. Never any issue but normal changes. Water pumps. Wheel bearings etc.
06 duramax 375k same as above
15 duramax 160k. Def problem at 105k. Permanent fix and no issues since
16 duramax 75k bought this one used. Will fix after warranty.
We pull a lot and some years not so much but keep going back for the longevity and TORQUE. Have had gas in Houston traffic and swore never again. As you can tell we put many miles on them so not sure how the gas would hold up to the high miles. If not for the high miles gas would be my option cause they are cheaper to run and maintain no doubt. Good luck with your decision.
PS. Hunting truck is an F150 with 330k. No issues here either with the 5.4 v
04 duramax 415k. Never any issue but normal changes. Water pumps. Wheel bearings etc.
06 duramax 375k same as above
15 duramax 160k. Def problem at 105k. Permanent fix and no issues since
16 duramax 75k bought this one used. Will fix after warranty.
We pull a lot and some years not so much but keep going back for the longevity and TORQUE. Have had gas in Houston traffic and swore never again. As you can tell we put many miles on them so not sure how the gas would hold up to the high miles. If not for the high miles gas would be my option cause they are cheaper to run and maintain no doubt. Good luck with your decision.
PS. Hunting truck is an F150 with 330k. No issues here either with the 5.4 v
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:10 pm to lsu13lsu
We’ve had two f-350 powerstrokes
‘17 and ‘18. Zero issues
‘17 and ‘18. Zero issues
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:18 pm to bamarep
quote:
I have a 250 gasser and am actually thinking of trading for a Diesel. The gasser works extremely hard pulling my salt boat.
Change your gears out?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:31 pm to lsu13lsu
quote:
What is the amount of miles one could expect out of a diesel and what kind of expenses (not normal maintenance) it would take to get 200,000 miles out of one?
Still running a Dodge 2004 with the 5.9. Has around 125000. Two water pumps,$50 for the first. Complete front end, $1200. Nothing else. Still getting 22.5 MPG. Still has the power as it had at 10K.
Looked at new, screw that crap.
Neighbor bought a new one, after 12K, nothing but trouble.
Posted on 1/18/19 at 6:52 pm to Masterag
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problems with new diesels all boil down to the exhaust recycling systems the gov't mandates they add on. remove that and the problems seem to all disappear.
For about 1500 bucks and the right mechanic you can delete all that shite
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