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re: $12,000 Reward for Information Regarding the Whereabouts of an Ivory Billed Woodpecker
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:09 am to Boat Motor Bandit
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:09 am to Boat Motor Bandit
BoatMotorBandit, that doesn't surprise me a bit. I have heard Ivory-bills in that area. I would really like to hear more about this. Please email me:
info@TheLouisianaWilds.org
Much Appreciated!
info@TheLouisianaWilds.org
Much Appreciated!
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:13 am to IvoryBillMatt
Can you post the audio so we can hear the difference between an ivory billed and a pileated?
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:16 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
reports from Pomme de Terre
But no pictures with the reports, eh? Probably because all photographs were taken with a potato!
(This is a French translation joke.)
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 8:38 am
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:17 am to baldona
Thanks Baldona for the question. I will post a link later today.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:22 am to IvoryBillMatt
IBMATT, can you post the link that includes all the pics from the Singer Tract expedition in 1935 pls? Pretty cool pics of the place, huge red gum.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:28 am to White Bear
Happy to do so later today.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
The reasons that I know the Ivory-bill still persists in Louisiana are way too numerous and nuanced to discuss in this thread.
Careful, to me, adding that word into your argument as to why you are unable to explain your position tells me you think I'm stupid or, more likely, your position is weak.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:06 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:I thought it was private property near there.
I have had really convincing reports from Pomme de Terre WMA.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:10 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
The reasons that I know the Ivory-bill still persists in Louisiana are way too numerous and nuanced to discuss in this thread.
This is equivalent to the posters on sports message boards who say: "I talked to a major inside source today. All I can say is that something big is about to happen with the program. But I can't say what it is or how I know. But it's huge!"
If you have proof that Ivory Billed Woodpeckers are not extinct, then explain it here. If not, then politely keep your mouth shut.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:12 am to LSUEnvy
quote:The fact that some highly skilled and motivated people have repeatedly struck out. The fact that with the technology being deployed they have still struck out. Although, the guy I think most likely to find one is spending pretty much all of march in prime areas of LA.
quote:
They...are...extinct
What makes you so sure?
This post was edited on 3/3/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:14 am to No Colors
quote:I have a few rumblings about a guy with a photo - but again it's poor quality - and he's holding onto it trying to get a better one.. but it's not on pomme de terre..
If you have proof that Ivory Billed Woodpeckers are not extinct, then explain it here. If not, then politely keep your mouth shut.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 9:28 am to choupiquesushi
Chop, I have appreciated what you have had to say, and I would really like to discuss this with you. I have plastered my email all over this thread, and don't want to overdo it. Please email me. Much appreciated.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 10:20 am to Clyde Tipton
We've seen one on our place as have many neighbors. No way any of us would ever compromise what we have by letting anyone know . Would be massive clustrfrick. No Thanks long may they live in peace.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 12:53 pm to No Colors
No Colors, as for evidence, go to the link at the beginning of the thread. A portion of my audio recordings are posted there.
The harmonics from my recordings closely match those from the 1935 Cornell recordings. Of course, different recordings from different conditions (distance, temperature, humidity, wind, tree density, etc.) will cause slight variances, even if the recordings are of the same sound. My recordings are a closer match to Ivory-billed Woodpecker than anything else (particularly the "kent" call of a Blue Jay, which is considered the closest avian match to the Ivory-bill). I am always open to hearing what else they can be, but no experts who have listened to them could come up with anything other than "Ivory-billed Woodpecker."
Any doubt that I had was removed on March 10, 2019 when I heard those same sounds and then saw a pair of Ivory-bills fly away from the area where I heard them. The sounds stopped as soon as the Ivory-bills exited the area to the NE. I did NOT see the birds I identified as Ivory-bills making those calls, but circumstantial evidence certainly suggests that they were.
Of course, none of this is absolute proof of anything. That won't come until we get an indisputable photo or video. That won't happen unless we find an active nest. So, that is the goal of our project: to enlist as many people as possible in the search, to increase the odds of finding an active nest cavity.
Our search is not for everyone, but it belongs to all Louisianians as part of their natural heritage. I don't care whether or not we are the ones to get THE photo. We just want enough Ivory-bills documented to show that the species can and should be saved.
The harmonics from my recordings closely match those from the 1935 Cornell recordings. Of course, different recordings from different conditions (distance, temperature, humidity, wind, tree density, etc.) will cause slight variances, even if the recordings are of the same sound. My recordings are a closer match to Ivory-billed Woodpecker than anything else (particularly the "kent" call of a Blue Jay, which is considered the closest avian match to the Ivory-bill). I am always open to hearing what else they can be, but no experts who have listened to them could come up with anything other than "Ivory-billed Woodpecker."
Any doubt that I had was removed on March 10, 2019 when I heard those same sounds and then saw a pair of Ivory-bills fly away from the area where I heard them. The sounds stopped as soon as the Ivory-bills exited the area to the NE. I did NOT see the birds I identified as Ivory-bills making those calls, but circumstantial evidence certainly suggests that they were.
Of course, none of this is absolute proof of anything. That won't come until we get an indisputable photo or video. That won't happen unless we find an active nest. So, that is the goal of our project: to enlist as many people as possible in the search, to increase the odds of finding an active nest cavity.
Our search is not for everyone, but it belongs to all Louisianians as part of their natural heritage. I don't care whether or not we are the ones to get THE photo. We just want enough Ivory-bills documented to show that the species can and should be saved.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:00 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Do you have any knowledge of the Arkansas birds a few years back? As far as what their findings were?
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:08 pm to Vlad
Yes. I know people who were on the search. I visited with the Director of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, John Fitzpatrick, who was in charge of the Arkansas venture for over an hour in his office.
I am undecided about whether or not the bird in the David Luneau video is an Ivory-bill. I am convinced that there were several actual sightings of at least one male Ivory-bill. I also think that Cornell's recordings were Ivory-bills.
Just because that particular 2004/5 male Ivory-bill is apparently no longer around Bayou de View, Arkansas has no bearing on whether or not Ivory-bills persist in Louisiana in 2020.
I am undecided about whether or not the bird in the David Luneau video is an Ivory-bill. I am convinced that there were several actual sightings of at least one male Ivory-bill. I also think that Cornell's recordings were Ivory-bills.
Just because that particular 2004/5 male Ivory-bill is apparently no longer around Bayou de View, Arkansas has no bearing on whether or not Ivory-bills persist in Louisiana in 2020.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:11 pm to choupiquesushi
Chop, yes...and in Pomme de Terre.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:15 pm to choupiquesushi
Chop, I will be searching on that private piece of property again in the near future if you want to join me.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:28 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:Nah.... But I may provide ingress and egress for a guy in another area.
Chop, I will be searching on that private piece of property again in the near future if you want to join me.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 1:38 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:I disagree, both cases are based on roughly the same evidence.
Just because that particular 2004/5 male Ivory-bill is apparently no longer around Bayou de View, Arkansas has no bearing on whether or not Ivory-bills persist in Louisiana in 2020.
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