re: 1/2 ton diesel engines

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Non-existant market, as the 5.0 cummins proved.

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It is hard to get anyone to pay that high of a premium for a diesel in a half ton. Like was said the market is not there, but a less expensive torque monster with "better fuel economy" is what there is a market for right now. If you truly need a 5L diesel, you truly need more than a 1/2 ton anyway.

I say "better fuel economy" bc unless you are trying to save the environment, you are not saving $$$$ going with the diesel.

The price of the motor option and the maintenance will be a wash when compared to any gas engine of today. (I have driven a 3/4 ton diesel for over 25 years, so I am not bashing them.)

Unless you are a hot shot, farm, construction, OTR, or have money the close to $9000 premium for the diesel on a 3/4 ton can buy a lot of fuel, add on DEF, and the eventual cleaning or replacement of the DPF and it gets even worse. The govt f'd up the advantages of having a car/truck diesel around 2005. They are now well on their way to f'ing up the advantages in farm/industrial equipment.

Well you've only given a Ricky Bobby answer to what you want so I'm genuinely curious what would tickle your pickle in this market segment. The "heavy half" thing was attempted by Nissan and the market has proven it won't support a premium price for non-premium fuel economy in a half ton truck. The people who want/need power are buying big trucks. The people who want fuel economy and moderate capability are buying half tons. You seem to be in some kind of really weird middle ground where the 14k lbs or whatever these trucks can tow isn't enough, the 400+ ft-lbs they put out isn't enough, but an HD truck is too big.

Bow does the 3.0 compare with the 5.3 in towing capacity?

How about with that tuner and intake? I am intrigued.

3.0 diesel = 9500lbs 23/33 mpg (277hp and 460lb tq)

5.3 = 11500lbs 14/21mpg (355hp and 383tq)

I'm not sure why the diesel isn't rated higher with so much more torque. Guessing engine weight?

The 2022 are rated for 13300 for certain models. Add tge mods and you can get equivalent HP. Looks like I may be looking at GM again instead of Ford for my next truck.

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You seem to be in some kind of really weird middle ground

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well......I do drive a raptor. Is that middle ground?

Dude don't buy any new diesel planning to mod it, especially not these small ones. Itll have more power than you can use as is, and a warranty.

I really don't care for the belt drive oil pump on the duramax, but I think it's made into a bigger deal than it really is. You can't have a full gear drive setup without making noise and im sure there were strict noise requirements.

There's been a whole lot of studies done by a whole lot of fleet operators on 3/4 tons. For those guys who sell to auction at 200k miles the cost ends up being a wash if you average out over many thousand vehicles. You pay more for the diesel, pay more for repairs, and recoup more at sale. The gasser is cheaper to buy, cheaper to repair, worthless at sale.

On any two particular vehicles the diesel comes out far ahead *IF* it has no failures. If it does have a major failure (HPFP for example) you'll pay 10k to fix it and lose your arse.

So moral of the story is take very good care of your diesel. Odds are itll last longer than your desire to own it. There is always some element of a dice role with a common rail diesel engine though that doesn't exist with a port injected gas engine.

If money is the main concern, always observe what the fleet counts are buying. They have this figured out to the dime.

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You can't get the 5.3 in the refreshed 2022 AT4,

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say what? That's like saying you can't get ham in a ham and cheese sandwich.