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re: Ok so who on here has actual ties to the Oil and Gas industry

Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Drilltiger
Member since May 2010
137 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 9:49 pm to
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Can you explain this in more detail? How would your cement lose density? Maybe a portion of the hydrostatic head but I don't understand how you would lose all your hydrostatic head.

As cement begins to set it gains gel strength and supports itself by adhesion to pipe and well bore.

Also density can change when pumping a foam cement job if there is an intrusion of gas. The nitrogen is how the slurry density is reduced, but still maintains similar properties of normal cement jobs. If more gas is introduced during the job (i.e. from the reservoir), the potential for reduced density.

Not saying that was what happened here just in general.
This post was edited on 5/4/10 at 10:01 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40410 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:17 pm to
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As cement begins to set it gains gel strength and supports itself by adhesion to pipe and well bore.

Also density can change when pumping a foam cement job if there is an intrusion of gas. The nitrogen is how the slurry density is reduced, but still maintains similar properties of normal cement jobs. If more gas is introduced during the job (i.e. from the reservoir), the potential for reduced density.

Not saying that was what happened here just in general.


I understand the principle of using nitrogen to lighten your cement slurry and that formation gas could gas cut your cement. I thought you were talking about something else.

We just pumped a nitrogen cement squeeze job on my rig yesterday.
Posted by Drilltiger
Member since May 2010
137 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:32 pm to
I think he was talking about the scenario if the cement in the upper part of the annulus sets up before the cement in the lower section. The upper part would support itself and reduce the hydrostatic on anything below it.

Best practice is for cement to start setting from bottom and work up.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40410 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:40 pm to
My understanding is this was a tapered casing string run all the way to the wellhead. I wonder how high up they cemented? If this was a long string and not a liner it would of greatly reduced the time the rig had to react to the gas.
Posted by Drilltiger
Member since May 2010
137 posts
Posted on 5/4/10 at 10:51 pm to
Yea, if it was a longstring, there is no telling how quick it would have gotten to surface by the time there was any sign.
Posted by lathoroughbred
Louisiana/Kentucky
Member since May 2008
8114 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 4:35 am to
Started out in the pipe yards. Then Tourque/Test and nipple up/down BOP's. Then Gas Compression Mechanic.College. Now Production 15yrs. I have info. Now don't kill the messenger.
This comes from a fellow that has a son that was on the Horizon when the incident occured. This is what was sent. Son=BP Company Rep.
They had set a 9-5/8 Tapered Production Liner, did their cement job, had positive and also negative tested, they were going to set a balanced plug around 3000' below the wellhead which would be at about 8000'. The Senior Company Man wanted to set the Balanced Plug in mud but the engineers wanted to displace with water prior to setting balanced plug, so they displaced from 3000' below the mud line and were getting ready to set plug. The derrickman called the driller and said he needed help, he had mud going everywhere, about that time the drill floor disapeared, then there was an explosion, then a second explosion.
The flames are going straight up allowing evacuation of men, then you know the rest.
The hands that are missing are the ones from the rig floor and pump room. You know the result of that. This all took place in less than a minute. Rig was evacuated in 25 minutes.
It is believed that the seal assembly at the well head gave up. If that is the case and they would have set the balanced plug in mud then displaced the riser it would have only delayed what happened by a couple of hours. Gas must have channelled through the cement job and up the back side of the 9-5/8 production casing.
Thats all I got. No Names. Don't ask.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8938 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 8:21 am to
Thanks for the info. What could have caused this?
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It is believed that the seal assembly at the well head gave up.
Posted by gliterein
Member since Aug 2008
201 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 8:24 am to
good info.

any discussion as to why the cement bond log was cancelled and that logging crew was sent home that afternoon?
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/5/10 at 9:12 am to
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Taxing Authority
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15 years working as a field company man


Would you please explain to this board the concept, authority and responsibilities of a "company man" in GOM oil field operations. Thanks.
Posted by back9Tiger
Island Coconut Salesman
Member since Nov 2005
17625 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:03 am to
Great info here. This is truly why Louisana has some of the most educated, toughest, brightest minds in the E&P business. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else no matter what the issues we come across.
Posted by Rawdawgs
Member since Dec 2007
910 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 11:53 am to
30 years with Big Red, but don't know anything about this job.
Posted by Professor Chaos
Lake Chuck
Member since Oct 2007
970 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 6:57 pm to
Handle my companies contract with Transocean for structural steel, pipe and fittings. We also supplied the plate that was fabricated to make the containment boxes.
This post was edited on 5/6/10 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/6/10 at 8:21 pm to
quote:

It is believed that the seal assembly at the well head gave up.


So that could be what has the BOP jammed up.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89766 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 10:49 am to
15 years in the product development, manufacturing, application and monitoring of drilling additives and production/refining chemicals

of my 15 years, I have 5 years offshore production chemical application experience
Posted by AcadianDisciple
South LA.
Member since Nov 2009
275 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 11:06 am to
15 years renting drill pipe and BOPs to both independants and majors.
This post was edited on 5/10/10 at 9:00 am
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79241 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:25 pm to
15 years as an Instrument Tech in the chemical, oil and gas industries...2 years offshore...was part of construction of 2 oil platforms including the commissioning and start up of the Magnolia platform back in 2004 and was onboard when they brought up first oil on that platform..very exciting to be part of that...
Posted by sdc74
Houston
Member since Jan 2007
1218 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 7:31 pm to
10 years.. 3 as MWD, 6 as DD, 1 as company man.
Posted by sdc74
Houston
Member since Jan 2007
1218 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 7:32 pm to
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You can bet that cement bond logs will now be mandatory on all production strings.




I agree!


I agree 1000000%
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 5/7/10 at 11:14 pm to
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any discussion as to why the cement bond log was cancelled and that logging crew was sent home that afternoon?


I had not heard this. How long would you have to wait after pumping to run the CBL? Can you get real time on this log?
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
61864 posts
Posted on 5/8/10 at 12:25 am to
Everytime I use my Speedpass......



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