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Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:07 am to Oyster
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BP should be on the offensive. Transocean seems to be totally forgotten.
Every south LA court and jury will be willing to bring that Swiss and British money to the US.
I think in the end we are gonna find human error and complacency caused the problem, and then came along a failure of the back up systems in place to cover their arse.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:08 am to ItTakesAThief
quote:Everybody that's anywhere near this is going to pay.
Every south LA court and jury will be willing to bring that Swiss and British money to the US.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:18 am to Longbaugh
Secretary Salazar just said the worst case scenario is 100k barrels a day. Someone please reassure me that this is not the case.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:20 am to Decatur
quote:Nobody really knows what the worse case scenario. But that is a little higher than the worst-case scenarios I have heard so far.
Secretary Salazar just said the worst case scenario is 100k barrels a day. Someone please reassure me that this is not the case.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:22 am to Longbaugh
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Secretary Salazar just said the worst case scenario is 100k barrels a day. Someone please reassure me that this is not the case.
Love all these politicians lining up to get on camera. Nothing like free political ads.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:31 am to Oyster
quote:I've never even heard of a single well producing that kind of flow. I'm talking a properly completed frac'ed, stim'ed, clean bore well. Kinda absurd to expect that from an uncompleted well flowing inton 2,200 psi back pressure with a kink in the flow line.
Secretary Salazar just said the worst case scenario is 100k barrels a day. Someone please reassure me that this is not the case.
Not saying it's unpossible. But exceptionally unlikely.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:40 am to Taxing Authority
The spill is mostly from the river and to the east. So, with most of the winds and jet streams and such, wouldn't this keep this oil in the future to the east? River to the west should be OK right? This is if the normal weather paterns keep it blowing to the east.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:51 am to Crawdaddy
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I've never even heard of a single well producing that kind of flow. I'm talking a properly completed frac'ed, stim'ed, clean bore well. Kinda absurd to expect that from an uncompleted well flowing inton 2,200 psi back pressure with a kink in the flow line.
Not saying it's unpossible. But exceptionally unlikely.
Yes highly unlikely I agree. I have heard of a few exceptional wells that produced over 100k but those were fracced or had an ESP or some sort of stimulation ie not a naturally flowing well. In other words there is no friggin way this well is producing at that rate.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:53 am to Taxing Authority
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Friday, industry experts said based on satellite images and standard measuring indexes, they estimate the spill rate at 20,000 barrels a day to 25,000 barrels a day. If those rates are accurate, the spill could already rival the 11-million gallon Valdez slick that economically and environmentally devastated part of Alaska.
Allen said three leaks have now been found at the well.
Asked if the 25,000 barrel a day figures were accurate, head of BP America, Lamar McKay, said on ABC that their own estimates were "very, very uncertain."
Salazar said that he believed BP could stop the leak, but he fears that it may take 90 days to do that. BP is placing a new rig over the leak and will soon attempt to use drilling tools to close the leak.
If the 25,000 barrel-a-day estimate is accurate and the leak lasts for 90 days, that's 2.25 million barrels, or 94.5 million gallons.
Wall Street Journal
If it is really that much and BP has had knowledge of this, I think they made a grave mistake by not put the information out.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:53 am to lsugradman
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Yes highly unlikely I agree. I have heard of a few exceptional wells that produced over 100k but those were fracced or had an ESP or some sort of stimulation ie not a naturally flowing well. In other words there is no friggin way this well is producing at that rate.
I'm surprised that we haven't seen this thing bridge over yet. Anyone know what reservoir this is? Miocene or Pliocene maybe?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:56 am to lsugradman
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Could the kick have been so massive that back pressure in the BOP caused them to malfunction.
Good question. One thing that strikes me as odd is the guy interviewed mentioned pressures in the 30k to 40k psi range. That is insane and would be extremely abnormal for even the deepest reservoirs in the gulf.Hell i know alot of equipment isnt even rated to operate in those types of pressures.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:58 am to TigerDog83
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The spill is mostly from the river and to the east. So, with most of the winds and jet streams and such, wouldn't this keep this oil in the future to the east? River to the west should be OK right? This is if the normal weather paterns keep it blowing to the east.
hopefully, so the wind is the #1 factor in how it moves followed by currents. with that said here is the wind forecast for the next few days. NOBODY is close to being out of the woods when it comes to seeing the effect of this
wind forecast
the currents forecast is on here as well, but it seems to be negligible as of now
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:58 am to lsugradman
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I'm surprised that we haven't seen this thing bridge over yet. Anyone know what reservoir this is? Miocene or Pliocene maybe?
Dunno what age reservoir this is. What subsea depth were they at when they TD'd the well?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:59 am to lsugradman
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Good question. One thing that strikes me as odd is the guy interviewed mentioned pressures in the 30k to 40k psi range. That is insane and would be extremely abnormal for even the deepest reservoirs in the gulf.Hell i know alot of equipment isnt even rated to operate in those types of pressures.
That's water pressure, right?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:02 pm to Decatur
Formation pressure or pore pressure is my assumption.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:04 pm to lsugradman
surface currents
interesting link showing the predicted surface currents and the effects of the opening of the MS river diversions
interesting link showing the predicted surface currents and the effects of the opening of the MS river diversions
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:24 pm to nhassl1
quote:I thought that was odd too.
One thing that strikes me as odd is the guy interviewed mentioned pressures in the 30k to 40k psi range. That is insane and would be extremely abnormal for even the deepest reservoirs in the gulf.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:24 pm to nhassl1
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after listening to the interview, he said that it came up the riser so fast that no-one noticed it. so, if that's the case, i doubt that they engaged the shear rams or the annulars. but, you never know, i have heard many different things. i do know that there is a secondary panel on that rig somewhere. most of the time it's in the control room. not sure why the rams were not activated from the secondary panel.
I do not want to discuss too many details I am aware of but by the time the attempted to close in the well the BOP did not function. This was attempted on the rig floor as well as on the bridge where the 2nd BOP panel is located. Both attempts failed to close the rams. I have only heard estimates but the kick they took was MASSIVE. Off the charts.
There was only a window of 30 or so seconds from mud spewing through the top of the derrick and attempts are being made to close the well to the explosion wiping out everything on the rig.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:27 pm to Carnage
Man thats just nuts. Thanks for the insight Carnage.
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