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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)

Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:38 am to
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:38 am to
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I have heard speculation he may be one of the PE onboard.


I'm pretty sure that I remember Mark Levin saying something about "ok we've verified your identity" .. he'd id himself as PE on that rig, no?
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:40 am to
Listening to the BP spokesman on TV. He didnt mention anything about cutting the riser. As a matter of fact the said they were making 3 domes to cover the 3 leaks in the riser. Thus I doubt they are going to cut the riser as was earlier reported. He did say that they were continuing work on the BOP and expected that may work hopefully any day now.
Also funny how he mentioned TransOcean several times.

Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:55 am to
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There was zero time to react for these gentlemen. They did as they were trained to do but as "James" said this was a HUGE kick. Larger than the safety mechanisms were designed to hold.


i would love to see the report because james said that they opened the annular after testing.
after you open the annular, you have to monitor this well intensly. you can't become complacent after cement is poured and riser is displaced. so, if there is a kick, no matter how big, the well will flow and you will see it if you are looking.

Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:02 am to
First off, a layman here.

Second, I want to thank all of you who work in the industry for providing your insights and opinions. It is helping a layman like me understand the situation.

Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:13 am to
Dr. Overton from LSU (an environmental scientist) was just on FOX news ... said that he's not ready to call this an environmental disaster ... can't repeat what all he said but when he was done I did tell my husband that he was calm and explained things from his perspective well and made me feel better.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:14 am to
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Dr. Overton from LSU (an environmental scientist) was just on FOX news


i saw this last night. i was actually surprised when he said that the wind would help displace the oil.

Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:22 am to
The Pres is on his way ... I'm not worried anymore.
Posted by Longbaugh
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:24 am to
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that survivor just told alot. the only problem is, he just gave everyone, who knows a little about the drilling industry, an idea of how t.o. dropped the ball. you see, after you open the annular, you'd better be monitoring the flow of the well. your pumps are off. if the well is still flowing, something is wrong. so, you close he annular, get on the choke, and close the diverter bag under the rig floor.

oh oh...
TA, what is your opinion on the above?
Posted by Longbaugh
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:25 am to
And I second this to all:
quote:

I want to thank all of you who work in the industry for providing your insights and opinions.
Posted by tigerhoney
Member since Mar 2005
7879 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:25 am to
I think the gist of what he was saying is that the wind will push it toward Alabama and Mississippi and away from Louisiana and that's a positive development.
Posted by tiger91
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36807 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:28 am to
Well, he said it's easier to clean sandy beaches rather than the marshes of LA & MS. It also sounded like he said that the wind will help to separate it so that it won't be so concentrated???? AND he said that there's no harm done AS OF NOW (not that there won't be) to the seafood industry (although that I find a little hard to believe maybe???) ... do they fish commercially that far out???
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:32 am to
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I think the gist of what he was saying is that the wind will push it toward Alabama and Mississippi and away from Louisiana and that's a positive development.
He's right. The larger the area the better. Think of it in terms of dosage. If you take X-amount of oil and spread it out over a large area, the smaller the dosage to the environment.
Posted by STEALTH
Kansas
Member since Feb 2008
958 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:37 am to
LINK

The BP CEO is going on the offensive blaming it on a equipment malfunction.

Sounds like they are throwing Cameron under the bus.

LINK
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 10:56 am
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:37 am to
tigerdup07 is there any speculation as to why the BOPs failed.
It seems it was more than loss of control lines to BOPs from the rig.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21976 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:41 am to
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tigerdup07 is there any speculation as to why the BOPs failed.


after listening to the interview, he said that it came up the riser so fast that no-one noticed it. so, if that's the case, i doubt that they engaged the shear rams or the annulars. but, you never know, i have heard many different things. i do know that there is a secondary panel on that rig somewhere. most of the time it's in the control room. not sure why the rams were not activated from the secondary panel.



Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9318 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:43 am to

Yes it would be much easier remove a couple of feet from the beach and pump in new sand by dredge to replace it than to slog around through the marsh trying to locate and remove oil. No question about that.

Also you could push up a sand barrier at the edge of the beach to limit how far the tide and surf bring the oil onshore.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:49 am to
Could the kick have been so massive that back pressure in the BOP caused them to malfunction.
Seems like I saw some where today that the secondary panel was activated and failed. I attribute all the rig control failure to burned out control lines. However if that was the case the ROV should have been able to activate it from the control panel on the BOP.
Posted by tigerdup07
Member since Dec 2007
21976 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:50 am to
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Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing
Could the kick have been so massive that back pressure in the BOP caused them to malfunction.
Seems like I saw some where today that the secondary panel was activated and failed. I attribute all the rig control failure to burned out control lines. However if that was the case the ROV should have been able to activate it from the control panel on the BOP.


if the mux/pod lines were not functioning, then you automatically close the diverter bag right under the rig floor and open the overboard valve and dump overboard. there has never been a kick that i couldn't detect.

Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:58 am to
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The BP CEO is going on the offensive blaming it on a equipment malfunction.


BP should be on the offensive. Transocean seems to be totally forgotten.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:02 am to
BP has the deepest pockets of the group.
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