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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)
Posted on 5/2/10 at 7:08 am to LakeViewLSU
Posted on 5/2/10 at 7:08 am to LakeViewLSU
that survivor just told alot. the only problem is, he just gave everyone, who knows a little about the drilling industry, an idea of how t.o. dropped the ball. you see, after you open the annular, you'd better be monitoring the flow of the well. your pumps are off. if the well is still flowing, something is wrong. so, you close he annular, get on the choke, and close the diverter bag under the rig floor.
oh oh...
oh oh...
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:14 am to tigerdup07
Elaborate
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:15 am to Crassus
quote:
Elaborate
i did.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:24 am to tigerdup07
quote:
that survivor just told alot. the only problem is, he just gave everyone, who knows a little about the drilling industry, an idea of how t.o. dropped the ball. you see, after you open the annular, you'd better be monitoring the flow of the well. your pumps are off. if the well is still flowing, something is wrong. so, you close he annular, get on the choke, and close the diverter bag under the rig floor.
So what you're saying is, is that TO better get ready.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:30 am to tigerdup07
Good info here tigerdupu thanks for sharing knowledge from the industry? In your opinion, will they stop the flow prior to completing a relief well?
As far as the bankrupting of BP, I think it's unlikely because it sounds like it's Transocean's fault. However, the law suit that will be filed will be one of the largest on record, especially if it starts hitting the beaches of Florida during summer vacation season. The amount of tourism dollars that will be lost this summer will be significant, well into the billions i would think, then you add in the impact on commercial fishing, recreational fishing, clean-up efforts, other oil companies forced to cease operations, etc.. Transocean is gonna be hurting BIG TIME.
As far as the bankrupting of BP, I think it's unlikely because it sounds like it's Transocean's fault. However, the law suit that will be filed will be one of the largest on record, especially if it starts hitting the beaches of Florida during summer vacation season. The amount of tourism dollars that will be lost this summer will be significant, well into the billions i would think, then you add in the impact on commercial fishing, recreational fishing, clean-up efforts, other oil companies forced to cease operations, etc.. Transocean is gonna be hurting BIG TIME.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:33 am to tigerdup07
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Elaborate
Blowout preventer was closed.
When it is opened back up if the well shows signs of flowing
i.e. saltwater coming back up well
You had better close the BOP back and
divert the flow of the well over board and not thru the rig floor.
So what happened here
They closed the BOP to test the well pressure/ cement job.
The BOP was opened the well was showing signs of life and they didn't catch it. A gas bubble came up thru the well. AS it gets higher in the well it expands and speeds up like a run away freight train. Faster and faster almost to the speed of sound, the whole time getting bigger and bigger. The since it isn't diverted over board it comes up thru the rig floor. The rig is flooded with natural gas. The slightest spark sets it off and here we are.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:39 am to Oyster
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Oyster
Thanks for the Info.
Are you an Engineer or driller?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:43 am to Oyster
Not to change the subject, but I heard yesterday they put some chemical dispersent down "next to one of the leaks" to see if the dispersent worked, using a camera, submersibles, etc.
If they can do this why not put a vacuum next to the place the oil is coming out? I know it wouldnt get 100% of the oil, but even a low % is better than what they are doing now.
I'd say every % counts.
If they can do this why not put a vacuum next to the place the oil is coming out? I know it wouldnt get 100% of the oil, but even a low % is better than what they are doing now.
I'd say every % counts.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:49 am to Big L
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In your opinion, will they stop the flow prior to completing a relief well?
yes.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:49 am to jeffsdad
They wanted to do that but the Arabs stole all of the shop vacs
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:50 am to TigerFred
Posted on 5/2/10 at 8:53 am to Dribble
I guess you are saying Arabs are not very smart.
And you dont know the answer to my question.
And you dont know the answer to my question.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:13 am to jeffsdad
tigerdup07 it sounds like the ROV people must have a rather positive attitude.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:13 am to jeffsdad
While it is informative, I know that voice and all of his information is second hand as to what was actually happening on the rig floor at the time. If I want to know what is going on down hole I would actually talk to someone who works on the rig floor.
Trust me, there is way more to this than just somebody for Transocean wasn't paying attention. There is a lot that was left out of his explanation.
Trust me, there is way more to this than just somebody for Transocean wasn't paying attention. There is a lot that was left out of his explanation.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:15 am to Oyster
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tigerdup07 it sounds like the ROV people must have a rather positive attitude.
i think that they will actually get the lower annular closed. however, you still have to drill the relief well for a more permanent fix.
you know as well as i do that the relief well will take more than three months.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:17 am to Carnage
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If I want to know what is going on down hole I would actually talk to someone who works on the rig floor.
after listening to him, i can assure you that he did know more than most floorhands. he sounded very knowledgable about the well bore.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:19 am to Carnage
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If I want to know what is going on down hole I would actually talk to someone who works on the rig floor.
With all due respect and not being a smart arse, I doubt that can happen.
quote:
Trust me, there is way more to this than just somebody for Transocean wasn't paying attention. There is a lot that was left out of his explanation.
I would agree with you on that. There is already some talk that other things were going on. The guy in the interview was being intentionally vague to cover his identity and he mainly wanted to dispel any rumors terrorist had started the incident. I would love to talk to the guy off the air!
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:22 am to tigerdup07
I'm not saying he isn't knowledgeable. Actually he is very informed. I am saying he is just giving a basic explanation of the conditions.
There were decisions made in the days leading up to this incident that are MAJOR contributing factors.
There were decisions made in the days leading up to this incident that are MAJOR contributing factors.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:24 am to Carnage
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after listening to him, i can assure you that he did know more than most floorhands. he sounded very knowledgable about the well bore.
I have heard speculation he may be one of the PE onboard.
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/2/10 at 9:30 am to Oyster
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I have heard speculation he may be one of the PE onboard.
He is not an engineer. I will not speak further because I do know him. He did an excellent job of explaining everything. But what I don't want people to think is that this occurred because someone on the rig missed the signs of the kick.
There was zero time to react for these gentlemen. They did as they were trained to do but as "James" said this was a HUGE kick. Larger than the safety mechanisms were designed to hold.
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