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re: Oil Spill and Offshore Fishing (Latest Developments)

Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:32 pm to
Posted by TigerDog83
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:32 pm to
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I think they will, unless the British Government bails them out.


What do you base that on?
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:32 pm to
office...still same effect?
Posted by lsugradman
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:35 pm to
Lets not get ridiculous now. BP isnt going to go out of business because of this. But they will take a serious financial hit without a doubt.
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:40 pm to
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BP isnt going to go out of business because of this. But they will take a serious financial hit without a doubt.


that was my thought, but you never know..I was just getting the OT's feedback on what they thought...I totally believe that it is up in the air and within the next week my question I asked will be answered..
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:43 pm to
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What do you base that on?


It's just my opinion, but it's costing them 8 million per day on the cleanup (right now), lawsuits from the personnel on the rig, lawsuits from the fishing industry, reimbursing the government, fines, the cost of killing this well, etc........ my understanding is that they were only insured for 250 million. This thing is far from over.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:47 pm to
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It's just my opinion, but it's costing them 8 million per day on the cleanup (right now), lawsuits from the personnel on the rig, lawsuits from the fishing industry, reimbursing the government, fines, the cost of killing this well, etc........ my understanding is that they were only insured for 250 million. This thing is far from over.


BP is self insured mostly if I read that correctly recently. BP reported revenue in 2009 of $239 billion I believe. They aren't going to go out of business because of this. That being said it is going to cost them tremendously in the long run. The Valdez lawsuits took many years to play out and this will probably be no different.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:54 pm to
BP Group reported a Net Profit of $16,759,000,000 for FYE 12/31/09. Apparently, 2009 was a down year as they reported Net Profit of over $21 billion in both '08 and '07. I'm not worried about BP's solvency.
Posted by longhorn22
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:54 pm to
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BP reported revenue in 2009 of $239 billion


thats real money!


estimated cost of whole cleanup/suits/everything?????
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:54 pm to
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BP is self insured mostly if I read that correctly recently. BP reported revenue in 2009 of $239 billion I believe. They aren't going to go out of business because of this. That being said it is going to cost them tremendously in the long run. The Valdez lawsuits took many years to play out and this will probably be no different.



I guess a lot will depend on how long it takes them to kill this thing. This well was supposed to be a huge producer and I think that the 5000 bbl/day leak rate is a conservative estimate.
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:55 pm to
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estimated cost of whole cleanup/suits/everything?????


No way of knowing that until they kill the well.
This post was edited on 4/30/10 at 11:08 pm
Posted by GM4UA
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2008
268 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 10:56 pm to
Just a random thought, but why wouldn't a deepwater well have some kind of floatation device around the riser (or whatever they call the line from the ocean surface to the sea floor)? Then you could blow the line at the surface if the rig is in danger of capsizing, and set the thing on fire until it can be capped. Sure would be a different ballgame than dealing with a leaking line 5000 feet below the surface.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:05 pm to
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estimated cost of whole cleanup/suits/everything?


In the press conference this afternoon, BP Honcho, Doug Suttles, said they were currently spending $6-7 million/day on the Horizon disater. I've heard differnt figures on the intervention well, but $100 million seems reasonable. If it takes 100 days to drill the new well and clean-up costs remain constant, that gets you to about $700-800 million.

Lawsuit awards and legal fees... Who knows???
Posted by longhorn22
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:06 pm to
gotcha..thanks fellas..i'm heading out
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22360 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:06 pm to
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Then you could blow the line at the surface if the rig is in danger of capsizing, and set the thing on fire until it can be capped. Sure would be a different ballgame than dealing with a leaking line 5000 feet below the surface.


They have a BOP (blow out preventer) for situations like this but it failed. The BOP is what they've been trying to activate for the last few days with no success.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:24 pm to
It just seems like they could make a new BOP , or simulate another BOP, or do something that does what a BOP does, at the place of the BOP, without having to drill a whole other well. But, I am an English major, so I realize that what I just said sounds like what a blonde girl English major would say.


Posted by GM4UA
Mobile, AL
Member since Nov 2008
268 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:24 pm to
When there is so much at stake, I want more than one backup plan. I know hindsight is 20/20, but letting that line get dragged to the bottom was just plain nuts, if preventable. And blowing the line at the surface still wouldn't have hurt anything.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40230 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:27 pm to
Question: how does a BOP originally get brought down to the floor of the GOM anyway?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63320 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:35 pm to
quote:

Just a random thought, but why wouldn't a deepwater well have some kind of floatation device around the riser (or whatever they call the line from the ocean surface to the sea floor)? Then you could blow the line at the surface if the rig is in danger of capsizing, and set the thing on fire until it can be capped. Sure would be a different ballgame than dealing with a leaking line 5000 feet below the surface.
They have all of that. Flotation on the riser. And a disconnect joint on the top. None of that worked, or there wasn't time to disconnect.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8970 posts
Posted on 4/30/10 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

It just seems like they could make a new BOP , or simulate another BOP, or do something that does what a BOP does, at the place of the BOP, without having to drill a whole other well.


Impossible.If it were that simple they would have done that already.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 5/1/10 at 12:00 am to
Clearly, but I was just saying what all of the laymen are thinking.
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