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re: Links to live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV)
Posted on 5/29/10 at 5:58 pm to omegaman66
Posted on 5/29/10 at 5:58 pm to omegaman66
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Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:02 pm to omegaman66
BP probably knows that there is about a <80% chance that the relief well is the only solution. Still, BP will continue to work on fixing the leak because its in there best interest. The public expects them to at least try to fix the problem, even though its probably for not. The same with the Feds and State, they should be doing everything to confort the public during this crisis. Its easy to see when people are not doing their best and the public is simply trying to keep them accountable.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:03 pm to The Hamburglar
Hanburgler's right -- he has a right to his opinion and banning is too much.
BP does indeed have a serious, systematic safety problem. In addition to this, let's not forget the pipeline leak (1M barrels) due to poor maintenance and their refinery accidents. In this case, they went with a drill plan that left then at risk if poor drilling decisions were made.
But that doesn't make for a conspiracy. Who can blame them for making a PR effort to salvage whatever reputation they can? And, I can see why they would go with an operation with 50/50 chance of success just in case it actually did work.
Anyway, I know a fair amount about the industry and have enjoyed the technical discussions in this thread. My vote: let's keep it on topic. :)
BP does indeed have a serious, systematic safety problem. In addition to this, let's not forget the pipeline leak (1M barrels) due to poor maintenance and their refinery accidents. In this case, they went with a drill plan that left then at risk if poor drilling decisions were made.
But that doesn't make for a conspiracy. Who can blame them for making a PR effort to salvage whatever reputation they can? And, I can see why they would go with an operation with 50/50 chance of success just in case it actually did work.
Anyway, I know a fair amount about the industry and have enjoyed the technical discussions in this thread. My vote: let's keep it on topic. :)
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:06 pm to redstick13
My contact said 50/50 at the outset.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:16 pm to SlackMaster
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BP does indeed have a serious, systematic safety problem. In addition to this, let's not forget the pipeline leak (1M barrels) due to poor maintenance and their refinery accidents. In this case, they went with a drill plan that left then at risk if poor drilling decisions were made.
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But that doesn't make for a conspiracy.
Agreed, no conspiracy. Just fricking corner cutting criminals. But then again so is everyone else. Safety is a relative term. You should see the junk I have to make run. Only being written up by MMS makes them fix shite and then only enough to get by. They lose their fricking minds if I shut in. I should have learned to play the guitar.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:29 pm to COTiger
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Somebody can correct me if my memory is inaccurate but I seem to remember reading where BP ssid the odds of Top Kill succeeding were in the 60+ percent range.
Your are right there. Before they started that was what they said, however at some point in the operation probably on Thursday night or early Friday they would have realized that unfortunately what they were trying to do was not gonna be successful. They continued into Saturday evening before announcing it was a failure. (TB Pickens said on national TV on thursday night that it was gonna fail)
There is no conspiracy here, they tried, did the best they could and unfortunately it did not work.
But if a Fortune 500 company is going to announce bad news, that will greatly influence their stock price, it is better if they can announce it on a Saturday, memorial day weekend, when the markets are closed, so there is not a panic sell off of their stock. Gives a couple of days before the markets open for stockholders to temper their feelings.
This is just business its the way it works.
No doubt that they want to stop the leak. But they will manage information to minimize potential financial impacts to the company.
This post was edited on 5/29/10 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:34 pm to lathoroughbred
I dislike conspiracy theorist usually but this stinks.
While we may never know who is or os not involved in a conspiracy but to rule one out at this point is premature. There should be an independent investigation.
1) Rig Explodes and sinks. BP claims 1000b's a day for about a week. White House doesnt really do anything and blames that on BP for the 1000b's estimate.
2). A lot of rhetoric by WH and BP for the better part of 37 days. Yet lack of total action by both allows La's coast to be hit. And most of that time both BP and the white house knew it was at least 5000b's a day. Not sayin it could have been prevented but A mass effort by both clearly was not there.
3). All the big wigs meet during that 37 day period with local govt officials and seemingly love the sand berm idea. Then no approval for what 3 weeks. Then no approval.....Then only a small/partial approval. Ok the corps did a study and said a continuous berm was not good. You think they could have said yeah dont do that but go ahead and do this. WHY NOT?
4). Frustration and the national media give it more coverage. Even some Dems start commenting on the lack of action from the WH. The POTUS comes here and there is some phoney bussed in workers staged for a flyby. Well maybe BP is trying to fool the POTUS. However you certainly cant say the POTUS has never used props before......Just happened to have several white lab coats at the WH for the doctors to wear for the press.
While we may never know who is or os not involved in a conspiracy but to rule one out at this point is premature. There should be an independent investigation.
1) Rig Explodes and sinks. BP claims 1000b's a day for about a week. White House doesnt really do anything and blames that on BP for the 1000b's estimate.
2). A lot of rhetoric by WH and BP for the better part of 37 days. Yet lack of total action by both allows La's coast to be hit. And most of that time both BP and the white house knew it was at least 5000b's a day. Not sayin it could have been prevented but A mass effort by both clearly was not there.
3). All the big wigs meet during that 37 day period with local govt officials and seemingly love the sand berm idea. Then no approval for what 3 weeks. Then no approval.....Then only a small/partial approval. Ok the corps did a study and said a continuous berm was not good. You think they could have said yeah dont do that but go ahead and do this. WHY NOT?
4). Frustration and the national media give it more coverage. Even some Dems start commenting on the lack of action from the WH. The POTUS comes here and there is some phoney bussed in workers staged for a flyby. Well maybe BP is trying to fool the POTUS. However you certainly cant say the POTUS has never used props before......Just happened to have several white lab coats at the WH for the doctors to wear for the press.
This post was edited on 5/29/10 at 6:36 pm
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:36 pm to ItTakesAThief
I understand your viewpoint. I just don't agree with it. They were still pumping Friday afternoon when the markets closed. And I'm no market guru but I suspect BPs stock will probably take a hit Tuesday.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:41 pm to COTiger
It will no doubt, maybe not as much.
Man I just hope we get lucky and they come up with something soon to stop this thing.
I know they have some of the brightest in the business trying to get this thing stopped.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:43 pm to COTiger
Do you know they were pumping on Friday? Did BP tell the public that they were? Because a few days ago we were told by Thad Allen that they were pumping, when in fact they had not been pumping for 16 hours and had neglected to tell the Coast Guard admiral in charge of Coast Guard response resources.
The communications by BP have not been very good, not just to the public but apparently to the government as well.
The communications by BP have not been very good, not just to the public but apparently to the government as well.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:43 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Man I just hope we get lucky and they come up with something soon to stop this thing.
I know they have some of the brightest in the business trying to get this thing stopped.
On that we can agree.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:51 pm to SlackMaster
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Anyway, I know a fair amount about the industry and have enjoyed the technical discussions in this thread. My vote: let's keep it on topic. :)
Keep posting. Your input is appreciated.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 6:52 pm to CrazyTigerFan
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Do you know they were pumping on Friday?
My contact knew they were pumping and that's where I got the info.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 7:36 pm to SlackMaster
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BP does indeed have a serious, systematic safety problem. In addition to this, let's not forget the pipeline leak (1M barrels) due to poor maintenance and their refinery accidents. In this case, they went with a drill plan that left then at risk if poor drilling decisions were made.
I am sorry. But you truly do not know what you are talking about.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 7:40 pm to JudgeHolden
I am signing off now. Let me just say that you can enjoy your conspiracies theories. Then you can go watch some professional wrestling for some real athletic competition. This is truly nonsense.
BP has not met your PR expectations? Well, then maybe you need to consider that you do not have a constitutional right to have yourself fed information 24/7. There is not enough real information to communicate 24/7, so what you are listening to, and, to some degree writing here, is just noise.
I am signing off.
BP has not met your PR expectations? Well, then maybe you need to consider that you do not have a constitutional right to have yourself fed information 24/7. There is not enough real information to communicate 24/7, so what you are listening to, and, to some degree writing here, is just noise.
I am signing off.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 7:46 pm to JudgeHolden
this guy works for BP or something? I dont really understand the people that are taking up for BP here.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:28 pm to LEASTBAY
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I dont really understand the people that are taking up for BP here.
I don't either. Best I can figure is that they have some connection to BP and feel the need to defend them. Either they or a family member work for BP or they do some type of business with BP and don't want to lose that income. Also they may just work in the industry and feel the need to take up for BP because they know there will be repercussions for all companies in the industry and are trying to downplay the event. Beyond these reasons I really don't see why anyone would want to appear so foolish.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:42 pm to tgrgrd00
What are they doing now? I see the feed, (thanks for the link, man!) just looking for a point of reference.
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:45 pm to ntrcptr
thats the top of the BOP it looks like, I know they say they will cut the pipe, not sure when
Posted on 5/29/10 at 8:48 pm to LEASTBAY
I was thinking so, but no oilfield experience, just seen a lot of diagrams past month or so....
So is that the "wire saw" wrapped around it?
So is that the "wire saw" wrapped around it?
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