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re: Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Small Child in Enclosure

Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Split2874
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:41 am to
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How long does it take for whatever tranquilizer they had at that zoo to take effect?


I also read they we also worried the dart would piss the gorilla off before it could knock him out.

It is a real shame the gorilla had to die. It is possible the gorilla was just protecting the kid but it was a male and dragging the kid all over the place. That alone could have killed the kid.

I know I have seen some other videos with a female gorilla taking and protecting a child

Sad all the way around.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 9:46 am
Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:41 am to
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Video 1

Video 2

Video 3


terrifying.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:42 am to
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Did they shoot it in the head with a high power rifle?


I don't know. I bet they wont report that the zoo blasted a gorillas head off, if they did. I'd imagine aiming for the heart would have been the targeted spot.

Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:43 am to
Surely someone has video.
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:43 am to
That looks like a hell of a fall. Is the child ok? Seems like he'd be severely hurt even without gorillas involved.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:44 am to
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haven't read through the whole thread but i'm guessing it looks like this:

Parents: "Tragic, but they made the right call"
Non-parents: "frick and prosecute those parents"
Parents: "Why do you value an animal's life over a child's?"
Non-parents: "Because people are assholes"




That's exactly what it is.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:47 am to
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Surely someone has video.


Probably not. The zoo more than likely shut down the gorilla exhibit and escorted people away.

I mean, we live in a fricking society. They're not going to march a guy out with a rifle in front of 100 people with video capabilities and blast a gorilla.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 9:48 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:48 am to
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They're not going to march a guy out with a rifle in front of 100 people with video capabilities and blast a gorilla.


How cool would that be though.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:50 am to
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I'm a parent and it blows my mind they didn't at least try to tranq the gorilla first.

To those that say the tranq gun was not easily available, well was a gun easily available? It seems like you could make a tranq so powerful that the animal may not survive, but that chance is better than a gun shot.

The zoo should sue the parents for the cost of replacement. The kid is 4, not 14. How do you let a 4 year old get far enough away from you to do this?




Think about it. Let's at they decide to use a tranquilizer to stop the gorilla. How long does it take for it to take effect and stop the gorilla? 30 seconds? 60 seconds? How long would it take that gorilla to crush that kids skull or snap his neck? Or crush his rib cage? Two seconds, maybe three? Do the math. And how does the gorilla initially react when shot by the tranquilizer gun? Does having a large needed buried deep in his side or leg or wherever piss him off? Maybe, maybe not.

When you look at the full situation from. LOGICAL INSTEAD OF EMOTIONAL STANDPOINT, you have to see the zoo did the right thing. It's sad and tragic the animal had to die, but it was the right choice.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:51 am to
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How cool would that be though.


fricking savage.

Any good parent would have taken their kids away from the situation and most sane people would have walked away on their own too. Except for the lady that decided to video a child being drug around by a gorilla, she was dead-set on videoing.
Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:51 am to
Good point.
Posted by Fins up
Star, Ms
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:52 am to
Black Gorilla Lives Matter
Posted by Grandioso
Driftwood, TX
Member since Dec 2015
1597 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:54 am to
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I think the zoo for sure made the right call.


Unfortunate situation all around. The zoo did make the correct call. You can't risk a tranquilizer not taking effect fast enough when a 4 year olds life is at risk.

Shitty situation all around. The parents are first-rate dumbasses and should have to bear some sort of responsibility.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:56 am to
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Also, could they not have used a tranquilizer gun?


That's what a logical zookeeper would have done.
That actually doesn't sound logical at all.

You realize the gorilla doesn't immediately go to sleep once shot, right?
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:56 am to
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The parents are first-rate dumbasses and should have to bear some sort of responsibility.


The parents' punishment will be never having to take their traumatized kid to a zoo ever again! Which is more a blessing than a punishment for most parents.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:58 am to
You know what a mother gorilla would never do?

Let her baby fall off a cliff into a pit filled with large dangerous animals of another species.

The kid was probably better off being raised by the gorilla
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 9:59 am
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3147 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 9:58 am to
Finally common sense prevails
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:03 am to
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Don't even get me started. This shite pissed me off. Dumb arse parents not watching their f*cking kid. bullshite


A gorilla is a highly aggressive, territorial, and powerful animal. How did a toddler manage to get in the enclosure? My first reaction was that the enclosure must have been poorly designed.

ETA: I see now that there are vids.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 10:06 am
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2398 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:05 am to
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To the poster questioning the zoo's liability- that's absurd. Go to any zoo in America. It's easy to get in the cage of a dangerous animal if you want to, at any of them. I don't think you can blame the zoo.


Had the kid been mauled, I'm sure his shitty parents and about 1000 attorneys would have disagreed.

shite, the zoo's probably going to get sued by the parents anyway.
This post was edited on 5/29/16 at 10:12 am
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:13 am to
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You realize the gorilla doesn't immediately go to sleep once shot, right?


Duh. I made a point earlier about asking whether or not it had ever been sedated before, and what the behavior of the animal was. No telling with a child involved, but you have to think there was a risk shooting it and the animal falling dead on top of a 4 yr old. Risks all around, shooting it was the right call.
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