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re: You Moon landing deniers are all complete idiots...
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:43 am to czechtiger
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:43 am to czechtiger
This, radiation is a mother fricker!! We send satellites and human to the soace station all the time. Why haven't we been back there? Bc weve never been. Unmanned missions 1000% but man, nope!!
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:50 am to TigerGman
Secdragonmaster said it as perfect as you can get. End of story. Since you know so much tell us about the technology and also the radiation belt etc for the argument that they did go.
If you believe we went and havent been back yohr crazy.
Bet ya this China makes it "Back" before we get there.
If you believe we went and havent been back yohr crazy.
Bet ya this China makes it "Back" before we get there.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:52 am to TigerGman
[embed]Idiot! How big is Starship ? How big is the Saturn 5 rocket?[/embed]
Hey Genius in ZERO FCKING GRAVITY mass & weight matters ZERO!!!
Hey Genius in ZERO FCKING GRAVITY mass & weight matters ZERO!!!
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:57 am to AncientTiger
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Hey Genius in ZERO FCKING GRAVITY mass & weight matters ZERO!!!
Yeah, "zero gravity" is kind of a misnomer. Weightlessness does not equal no gravity. Astronauts are still being effected by gravity. You're just in perpetual free fall in orbit Much like being in a falling elevator, You're still being effected by gravity you just haven't hit bottom yet.
To leave Earth's orbit still takes a significant amount of energy.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 5:57 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:00 am to TigerGman
Most people cant fathom the enormousness of what it takes to build a huge space rocket that can accomplish something as complicated as landing and returning people from the moon.
The testing which is exhausting and more detailed then just about anything else built in this world, the huge tooling fixtures that only produce one product and the footprint they require, the skill sets to hand build these precisely toleranced components. Its beyond what most people will ever experience in their lives.
All that and so much more not mentioned equals a giant budget and tens of thousands of jobs. We did it, its still hard as hell to do it, and it costs a shite-ton of money to do it. The "stuff" that did it is long gone. There is no road map to reproduce what they did, never was. Pieces of it, but not some instruction manual step by step how to build and put a million components together and operate it.
Look at the F22, they won't build more of those because a lot of it is obsolete, most of the tooling is gone, as is the workforce, incredibly expensive and that is simple compared to a moon landing rocket system.
The testing which is exhausting and more detailed then just about anything else built in this world, the huge tooling fixtures that only produce one product and the footprint they require, the skill sets to hand build these precisely toleranced components. Its beyond what most people will ever experience in their lives.
All that and so much more not mentioned equals a giant budget and tens of thousands of jobs. We did it, its still hard as hell to do it, and it costs a shite-ton of money to do it. The "stuff" that did it is long gone. There is no road map to reproduce what they did, never was. Pieces of it, but not some instruction manual step by step how to build and put a million components together and operate it.
Look at the F22, they won't build more of those because a lot of it is obsolete, most of the tooling is gone, as is the workforce, incredibly expensive and that is simple compared to a moon landing rocket system.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:03 am to 200MPHCOBRA
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All that and so much more not mentioned equals a giant budget and tens of thousands of jobs. We did it, its still hard as hell to do it, and it costs a shite-ton of money to do it. The "stuff" that did it is long gone. There is no road map to reproduce what they did, never was. Pieces of it, but not some instruction manual step by step how to build and put a million components together and operate it.
And on top of that, the acceptable safety margins from the 1960's and 70's are no longer acceptable today. That raises the difficulty of the task significantly.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:21 am to wallowinit
We never landed on the moon and dinosaurs never existed.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:21 am to Lonnie Utah
Absolutely correct, we, I would say we are too risk adverse now. If we had an Apollo 1 scenario happen SLS would be cancelled with the quickness.
To all those doubters that think we didn't go, we are about to send 3 people in orbit around the moon. The rocket is completely different from Saturn, more like the Space Shuttle system actually, and lets see how the doubters explain 3 live people going through the radiation belts and not being TV dinners when they return.
To all those doubters that think we didn't go, we are about to send 3 people in orbit around the moon. The rocket is completely different from Saturn, more like the Space Shuttle system actually, and lets see how the doubters explain 3 live people going through the radiation belts and not being TV dinners when they return.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 6:23 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:23 am to TigerGman
I'm not denying but could you imagine back when there were only three TV stations and everyone believed everything broadcasted.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:26 am to The Torch
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I'm not denying but could you imagine back when there were only three TV stations and everyone believed everything broadcasted.
Now we have hundreds of sources of media through social platforms and people still believe everything broadcasted.
The human collective has not advanced in that aspect.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:29 am to TigerGman
I come to these threads to note the posters I shouldn't waste time debating.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:40 am to LA Lightning
Yep. People actually put Biden in office as well as AOC. Dysfunctional Americans indeed.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:45 am to TigerGman
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at the height of the propaganda driven Cold War, the Russians never said the United States is lying.
This is the main reason I can't ever buy the "moon landing was faked" theory. The Soviets had spies everywhere in this country. If it was faked, they would have known about it and gleefully announced it to the world.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:56 am to TigerGman
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you cannot make a single logical argument why we would lie about that.
To beat Russia.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:00 am to SallysHuman
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I don't know or care one way or the other- but don't act like there isn't room for some skepticism.
Yeah I’m skeptical of people claiming we didn’t go to the moon because neither Russia or China has made claims we didn’t and that you can’t.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:04 am to TigerGman
If you spend any time, researching the nature of the relationship between the USSR and the United States during the Cold War, had the Soviets possess any information that we had faked it, it would have been EVERYWHERE. That the United States faked the moon landing would have been all over Pravda and Izvestia. It would have been the greatest propaganda coup of all time. And if you know anything about how well the Soviets penetrated the United States and British national intelligence agencies, it is hard to accept that they would have not put an equal amount of effort into putting their assets into NASA given the problems. They were then encountering with their own program’s heavy lift rockets.
So well, I cannot guarantee that this means that we went to the moon, you have to look at the issue realistically given the political state between the USSR and the United States in the late 1960s. If the Russians had known that we did not go to the moon, we would not be having this conversation now.
So well, I cannot guarantee that this means that we went to the moon, you have to look at the issue realistically given the political state between the USSR and the United States in the late 1960s. If the Russians had known that we did not go to the moon, we would not be having this conversation now.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:07 am to TigerGman
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The entire word was watching the Space Race 24/7, and at the height of the propaganda driven Cold War, the Russians never said the United States is lying.
Of all the conspiracy theories thrown around on TD that’s hardly the most absurd.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:12 am to TigerGman
Fun fact: You could fit 1.2-1.3 million earths into the Sun.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:19 am to TigerGman
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TigerGman
You wore a mask and got the jab didn't you?
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