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re: You guys that are still in the corporate world....

Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:37 am to
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:37 am to
I pretty much pass over any resume that has an online degree as their primary source of education, especially with little to no experience. If a person has tons of proven experience in a non-STEM field, I would consider their on-line degree. I don’t even think you can get a STEM degree on-line.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:41 am to
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would not hire a person with an online degree for a position that requires a degree.


Even an online degree from a brick and mortar school?

Even LSU has online degrees.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:41 am to
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at least one exam has to be proctored


Most of my classes have had a proctored final exam.

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Finance was tough, the quizzes were open book (still took hours to do them) and the exams were all proctored.


That was me with Statistics after not taking a math class in nearly 20 years. Basically reading a textbook and watching some demonstration videos to teach myself.

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I didn't have the benefit of a teacher explaining things.



That's the most challenging aspect. You're expected to learn it on your own using the textbook and any other resources provided by the instructor.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:42 am to
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Even an online degree from a brick and mortar school?

Even LSU has online degree


I know they shouldn't be used interchangeably, but I think people mean an online university not necessarily an online degree.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:43 am to
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I don’t even think you can get a STEM degree on-line.


Bachelors no, masters yes.

Miss State

Auburn
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 9:44 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:45 am to
Alabama offers a Mechanical Engineering degree mostly online. I think you have to travel to one of their satellite campuses a couple of times for labs... but the rest is all online.

Here it is:
LINK

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The Bachelor of Science in Mechanical Engineering requires the completion of 128 credit hours. The BSME's unique and blended format allows students to experience the same lectures and discussions as traditional campus students, through online and video courses. Coursework is completed primarily online with the exception of three lab courses that require an occasional face-to-face component. Students can complete these labs during the weekend across the state of Alabama in Dothan, Gadsden or Tuscaloosa.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 9:48 am
Posted by OptionRight
Down da skreet
Member since Sep 2010
852 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:47 am to
I interview and hire degree require positions quite often inside a large corporation and while it pains me to tell you, as I pay my daughters college tuition and other associated costs, that the tide and approach HAS changed. It used to be solely about the degree and institution....and while I think some corporate sectors and professions still hold this in high regard, in today’s real time world, that thought has shifted and more weight is placed on experience rather than the pedigree of a piece of paper. I beleive I read a yahoo article some time back that studied mean income of degree workers vs non degree and when the student loan factors were calculated in, it didn’t look so hot for the college folks. Again, this is a single sector view and not a fact across all sectors of business. My sector is industrial sales/service. Oil/energy/construction.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2312 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:48 am to
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It means he, or she - gotta say that these days, is capable of getting their arse out of bed and going to class.


No, it doesn't. The brick and mortar universities these days offer a plethora of undergrad degrees that can be easily completed on a John Belushi lifestyle.

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Capable of sticking with something for four or more years and completing assignments. That is valuable.


I need to introduce you to some friends of mine with college degrees.

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IMO, there is no substitute for a brick and mortar four year degree.


Go take some tours of colleges of art, human sciences, education, mass comm, drama, interior design, social sciences, women & gender studies, etc.

Your view of four year degrees is a bit myopic.
Posted by terriblegreen
Spokane, LA
Member since Aug 2011
12458 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:51 am to
I agree with that. My bachelors is from LSU. My MBA is online. The material wasn’t difficult. The time management part was. I absolutely know my online degree isn’t worth what an MBA is from a real university. However, it was worth it because I just needed a masters. I didn’t care where it was from. It was 100% worth my time and effort. To some people it may not be worth it. You have to weigh your own options.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:52 am to
At least in the engineering world, I have found little to be gained by going to a big name school. I say that as a person that has worked with coworkers who are $100k+ in debt with a big name diploma, vs me that graduated from a state school with very little debt, working the same job.

IMHO, your major/study focus says much more than your school, at least in my sector of the STEM world.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 9:57 am
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:53 am to
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My sector is industrial sales/service. Oil/energy/construction.


where can i send a resume? :p
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60162 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:54 am to
I went to university of American Samoa online, it's a highly ranked degree program and you can take all the courses on your phone
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:54 am to
For me all tests were proctored. I had to pay to use the test center of a local community college. It got pretty pricy actually.

I think a lot of ways it is more difficult. You have to make your own schedule and stick to it, and you are a lot more on your own. I tend to be a self learner, so that tends to be my preference anyway. But setting and keeping a schedule entirely on your own can be challenging. Things can get on top of you quickly.
This post was edited on 4/20/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
91107 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:55 am to
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I absolutely know my online degree isn’t worth what an MBA is from a real university


that's the thing that is getting mixed up together here in the thread; there's a massive difference between "an online degree" and an online degree from a shite school paper mill. An online degree from a "real university" is just as good and valuable as a regular degree from same university.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 9:57 am to
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I had to pay to use the test center of a local community college


I've been using Proctor U... which is it's own special brand of hell.

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I think a lot of ways it is more difficult. You have to make your own schedule and stick to it, and you are a lot more on your own. I tend to be a self learner, so that tends to be my preference anyway. But setting and keeping a schedule entirely on your own cam be challenging. Things can get on top of you quickly.


I agree w/ all that. You have to learn to manage your time wisely... especially when taking 3 classes with various due dates.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:00 am to
Does anyone really even look at that section of a resume? Im more concerned with experience when reading one.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37542 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:01 am to
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beleive I read a yahoo article some time back that studied mean income of degree workers vs non degree and when the student loan factors were calculated in, it didn’t look so hot for the college folks. Again, this is a single sector view and not a fact across all sectors of business. My sector is industrial sales/service. Oil/energy/construction


A lot of those don't factor in total compensation. A 30 year old welder and a 24 year old accountant might both make 60k, the accountant gets 401k, insurance, pto, salary, variable component, etc. The total compensation package if much higher for the professional.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:02 am to
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I don’t even think you can get a STEM degree on-line.


wait what

Pretty sure there are a shite ton of "T" online degrees
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:05 am to
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I've been using Proctor U... which is it's own special brand of hell.



Good lord I hate proctor U. Your test will be at 330 but it isn't until 415 that you can take the actual test because the guy on the other side can't speak english. I usually try to weird them out. I mess my hair up and take my shirt off and have beer all over my desk. I also try to make the picture that they take to match with my id as horrible as possible.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12113 posts
Posted on 4/20/18 at 10:10 am to
legit universities offer 100% online degrees that would look the same as a regular degree. Just don't get UofPhoenix of ITT Tech or something similar and you'll be fine
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