re: You get arrested if disrupt a Law Enforcement Operation

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If we are going to blame avoidable deaths on poor judgement, at some point we need to recognize that the way this administration is handling illegal immigration is extremely poor judgement.

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It's not how some of us would handle it. They started with a last resort method. They should have first incentivized productive/law abiding/established undocumented immigrants to reveal themselves and start paying federal income taxes and contributing to systems. Based on merit, they would be given temporary status and a path to citizenship. Anyone who does not come forward after a certain time period is then presumed a criminal and would be subject to ICE enforcement.

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Is filming law enforcement at a protest the same as disrupting them?

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If you're filming them from inside the scrum as they're trying to apprehend someone, yes.

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Most Americans are ready to defend their rights from the government. Our ancestors fought too hard to get them for us to give them up.

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What rights do you think you are at risk of losing? Be specific.

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ICE is not new and they're not doing anything they haven't been doing for YEARS, including under your boy Obama

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Do you have the list of all American citizens that ICE shot during Obama administration? Seems he was far better at it than Trump, so maybe you should vote democrat next time.

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You ever been pulled over and a cop ask you if you have any weapons in the car? Its not illegal but it’s for everyone’s protection.

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I always hand the cop my license AND my concealed carry permit, and then tell him that I have a gun in my car and exactly where it is. I did that one time and he said "Tell you what... you don't pull out your gun and I won't pull out mine. Fair enough?" "Absolutely, sir." All while keeping my hands at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel.

I have a buddy of mine who served in the Army. He would always hand in his military ID card to the cop as well. He swears that he never got a ticket if he did that. If the cop asked why, he'd say "Because my drill instructor always told me to do that, sir." I mean, it never works for ME but I still do it anyway.

I love me some police... but not when they are nervous.

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Do you have the list of all American citizens that ICE shot during Obama administration? Seems he was far better at it than Trump, so maybe you should vote democrat next time.

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For whatever reason, you guys agreed with us when he was president that ICE was needed and let them do their jobs. Funny how that works.

But 67 illegals still died in ICE custody under Obama. So there's that.

Why weren't you guys protesting ICE under Biden?

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They should have first incentivized productive/law abiding/established undocumented immigrants to reveal themselves

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Fairly certain they did if memory serves.

ETA: Yep - in 2025 they started Project Homecoming. This gave illegals that self-deported a free flight home and a expense stipend as well as a concierge service at airports to assist them with booking travel, even if they were lacking proper travel documentation from their home country.

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Anyone who does not come forward after a certain time period is then presumed a criminal and would be subject to ICE enforcement.

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Don’t know what if a timeframe was given but I’m fairly certain I remember very early on in the year that they gave any illegals a warning that they could self-deport before ICE crackdowns began. If I’m mistaken on that, I’ll revise but I seem to remember that happening.

They also asked states to give over documentation of their sanctuary city populations that they have as well as list of illegals they have I. Custody or charges against etc. Some states refused to do so.

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Didn't Minnesota have tanks and police personal going down streets during Covid telling people to get inside?

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I’m trying to find the picture but it wasn't tanks, at least the one I’m thinking of but it was a line of Hummers rolling down a residential street.

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That literally should tell you something.

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It told me a lot. None of which you would like to hear, but carry on good sir.

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But 67 illegals still died in ICE custody under Obama. So there's that.

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From what I googled, 56 died under Obama (8 years) and 52 under trumps first term (4years). Seems like Obama still doing a better job than Trump.

I can help you change voter registration if you have trouble.

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Did I say there was anything wrong with packing.

You walk up on a cop during a stop or arrest with a gun you are putting yourself in harms way.

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No doubt...and there in lies the problem. Its is perfectly legal to carry a gun and perfectly legal to approach a cop....it is often unavoidable to do so. Cops suffer from an irrational fear of guns because they assume everyone thinks of their gun in the same way a cop does and that is it makes them a man. Like a cat who is a psychotic killing machine being scared of its own shadow because it assumes everything is a psychotic killing machine like the cat. Cops wouldn't act the way they do if they weren't armed and 99% of what they do does not require a firearm. They are terrified of their fellow citizens for no reason other than their own actions in most cases. Their job is not dangerous...there is no data that suggests it is....yet they carry on non-stop about "returning home to their families" as if there is a good chance they won't...there isn't, but they are convinced there is and perception is a powerful thing alongside reality, especially when one has the mentaility of a victim to begin with.