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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:30 pm to
Damn, looks like I struck a nerve.
Posted by BallHawk
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:33 pm to
Women's wrestling is actually the best thing on the show most of the time - watch Sasha Banks v. Bayley at TakeOver Brooklyn or their 30 minute Iron Woman Match - some of the best matches you'll ever see - Charlotte v Becky Lynch v Sasha stole the show at WM32
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:34 pm to
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ot for you and me, because we were kids then. But for todays kids its just as cool

It wasn't just kids though. Star NFL players (like John Randall) were wearing Austin 3:16 shirts under the pads during games. The 98 Cincinnati Reds had a bunch of guys where half wore NWO Hollywood and the other half wore NWO Wolfpac. Each "side" had a captain that would come out to Voodoo Child or the Wolfpac theme when they were up to bat at home. The amount 18-34 year olds watching Monday night rasslin on cable rivaled that of MNF on ABC (a network).
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:35 pm to
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Women's wrestling is actually the best thing on the show most of the time - watch Sasha Banks v. Bayley at TakeOver Brooklyn or their 30 minute Iron Woman Match - some of the best matches you'll ever see - Charlotte v Becky Lynch v Sasha stole the show at WM32

No one's buying tickets and PPVs to see a bunch of horseshite. It was much better for business when Jarrett was walloping them over the head with guitars or the Dudleys putting them through tables.
Posted by BallHawk
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:36 pm to
Professional athletes still do that.

You're right that it was more mainstream in the late 90's. Business is actually the best it's ever been now. It's just more international now. They also don't have the over top stars they used to and that's by design (which is a mistake)
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:38 pm to
Wrong - Bayley is out selling Cena in merch sales right now. Sasha Banks gets louder pops than most men. There are more women wrestling fans than ever before in history. And it's not horseshite. It's great wrestling. This tells me you haven't actually watched a match, no matter who is in it, in years so pardon me for not taking your opinion too seriously.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Business is actually the best it's ever been now.

That's not true though. Give me a few minutes to pull some numbers.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
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Wrong - Bayley is out selling Cena in merch sales right now. Sasha Banks gets louder pops than most men. There are more women wrestling fans than ever before in history. And it's not horse shite. It's great wrestling. This tells me you haven't actually watch a match, no matter who is in it, in years so pardon me for not taking your opinion too seriously.

Yep, nerve struck.
I mean, the cruiserweights in WCW put on cute little matches too. They weren't putting butts in the seats and eyes on the product though.
Posted by BallHawk
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:40 pm to
Financially it is...ratings aren't higher...but that's true across all TV. Streaming networks and DVR change that.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:42 pm to
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It was much better for business when Jarrett was walloping them over the head with guitars


Posted by Kayhill Brown
Member since May 2010
940 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:44 pm to
The women's elimination chamber match was way better than the men's just last month.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:44 pm to
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BlackAdam

Ironic coming from Mike Graham since he couldn't draw flies to shite in his daddy's promotion in Florida and blew his brains out a few years ago over being a lifetime loser.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39176 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:45 pm to
WWE is making record profits because of cuts to spending, not because of an increase in revenue. Just look at their live attendance now compared to the attitude era.
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:45 pm to
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It wasn't just kids though. Star NFL players


still see college and nfl players carrying wwe championship belts during parades and on sidelines
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6447 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:47 pm to
Live attendance isn't nearly as important as it was in the attitude era. I would not be surprised if house shows go away in the next decade.

ETA also Revenues are way up in 2017.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Financially it is

Not even close. They made roughly $32 million in profit last year. Compare that to numbers from the AE:

April 01 1994 - March 30 1995: -$4,431,000
April 01 1995 - March 30 1996: +$3,319,000
April 01 1996 - March 30 1997: -$6,505,000
April 01 1997 - March 30 1998: +$8,446,000
April 01 1998 - March 30 1999: +$56,030,000
April 01 1999 - March 30 2000: +$68,973,000
April 01 2000 - March 30 2001: +$84,981,000


Here are some recent numbers:

2012 $484,000,000 $31,400,000
2013 $508,000,000 $2,800,000
2014 $542,600,000 -$30,100,000
2015 $658,768,000 $23,927,000
2016 $729,216,000 $33,725,000
2017 $800,959,000 $32,116,000
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Financially it is...ratings aren't higher...but that's true across all TV. Streaming networks and DVR change that.




i am no wwe (nerd) but i watch every year from feb-wrestlemania. I take it for what it is, entertainment. I also find it simply amazing that a sports entertainment show that everyone knows is scripted still pulls the ratings it does every single week, and sells out shows like wwe does. It is freaking mind blowing actually that it has done this well for al these years.
This post was edited on 3/20/18 at 3:50 pm
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:50 pm to
Yet they are further in the black than ever before...cutting expenses and WWE Network membership increases will do that.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:50 pm to
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Yet they are further in the black than ever before...

No they aren't. I just showed you.
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
5736 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 3:51 pm to
Kayhill, the women's rumble was also better than the men's
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