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WSJ: There’s Never Been a Worse Time to Buy Instead of Rent (Housing Market board)

Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36589 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:57 am
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It is now 52% more expensive to buy a home than to rent one because of climbing mortgage rates

Getting on the property ladder has rarely been tougher for first-time buyers. But a tight housing market isn’t turning out to be a bonanza for landlords either.

The cost of buying a home versus renting one is at its most extreme since at least 1996. The average monthly new mortgage payment is 52% higher than the average apartment rent, according to CBRE analysis. The last time the measure looked out of whack was before the 2008 housing crash. Even then, the premium peaked at 33% in the second quarter of 2006.

In theory, buying and renting costs should be roughly matched, according to Matt Vance, head of multifamily research at CBRE. Although owners benefit when house prices go up, they also put more cash into their homes than tenants for things such as repairs and refurbishments.


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This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61137 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:58 am to
They want people to be renters forever anyways.

They're planting the idea that you shouldn't buy but rent while simultaneously talking about a real economic issue.


You will own nothing, and you will be happy
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73338 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:59 am to
This is like that CNBC Diana Olick telling everyone not to buy for the last 13yrs

Saying values are gonna plummett
Posted by coffeesmeller
Member since Nov 2021
55 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:26 pm to
who is they
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3116 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

who is they


Some of those who bomb churches

Are the same that raise mortgages
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66897 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:41 pm to
Stout board
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:43 pm to
Glad I bought at the peak of the market, can you say negative equity?!
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71347 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:44 pm to
At some point, you either shite or get off the pot. I decided to buy a house, and it'll either work out or not. We went with something we can easily afford and we can pay off quickly.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Member since Sep 2017
829 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:45 pm to
Expect the cost to rent to go up
Posted by PotatoChip
Member since May 2014
3481 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:46 pm to
Don’t have a housing market board, but this would fall under the money talk board for sure.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16838 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

You will own nothing


Technically, no one owns anything. We just temporarily hold our possessions until we die. And then someone new gets possession of them. And the process continues.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75163 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:53 pm to
The Austin housing market was and still is overpriced.
Posted by BK Lounge
Member since Nov 2021
3409 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

The Austin housing market was and still is overpriced.



Im not well-versed on the Austin market- but if people arent buying and the homes are sitting on the market for a year or 18 months, then youre correct.. if the houses are selling, then they are not overpriced, they’re appropriately priced .
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

You will own nothing, and you will be happy

I've never heard that before, how did you come up with this line?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75163 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:04 pm to
Days on the market are substantially more than in 2021.

Also the bidding process where people were paying $150,000 over asking price is non existent now.

Still not enough inventory for all of central Texas not just Austin.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75163 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:05 pm to
There are a lot of people that don’t consider a home as an asset.

If it’s not generating monthly cash flow then it’s not an asset.

This is very debatable and you’ll have a lot of varying opinions.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27046 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Still not enough inventory for all of central Texas not just Austin.



How far outside of Austin do you have to drive before the housing becomes more reasonable? I've heard that Georgetown is a decent place to live.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7654 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

You will own nothing, and you will be happy I've never heard that before, how did you come up with this line?


You serious Clark?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113910 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:15 pm to
If you rent, you don't own. You don't own, that leaves more for them to own.

When you don't own you also have less control. It will be like diesel or something. At first, its the much cheaper option then once they got you... BAM. You caught up in a trap where you are paying a lot more than you would be if you would have bought that house.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

The Austin housing market was and still is overpriced.


We bought in July of 2022
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