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re: WSJ: There’s Never Been a Worse Time to Buy Instead of Rent (Housing Market board)

Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75226 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:43 pm to
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We bought in July of 2022


Bad timing and not to mention the exorbitant property taxes for Travis county. I know some people paying over $1,000 a month in property taxes.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:51 pm to
We're paying over $1000 a month and TCAD raised our appraisal value tens of thousands of dollars this year.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3328 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:22 pm to
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We just temporarily hold our possessions until we die.
What do you think owning something means? Do you think it means you’re either immortal or you take the possessions into the afterlife?
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4938 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:56 pm to
It is still difficult to find workers. Good luck if the housing market gets hot.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33491 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Days on the market are substantially more than in 2021.
2021 was peak covid asset bubble. Why are you comparing it to that?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33491 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:08 pm to
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If you rent, you don't own. You don't own, that leaves more for them to own.
nah
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33491 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:08 pm to
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I know some people paying over $1,000 a month in property taxes.
We'd have to know the denominator to know if this is noteworthy or not.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:19 pm to
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We'd have to know the denominator to know if this is noteworthy or not.


An averaged size house in Austin/Dallas/Houston proper will probably be north of $1000 a month in property taxes as you're at roughly a $550-600k home valuation to be in that range.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33491 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:43 pm to
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An averaged size house in Austin/Dallas/Houston proper will probably be north of $1000 a month in property taxes as you're at roughly a $550-600k home valuation to be in that range.
So 1.5-2% property tax in a no-income-tax state? Doesn't seem that bad to me.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:47 pm to
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We bought in July of 2022



Got a much better rate than today.
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9487 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:48 pm to
The government wants to eliminate the middle class like most other countries. Only the elite (less than 1% of the population) should own everything.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5463 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:50 pm to
For most people under the age of 30 (and single people that are older than that) it is smart to rent. You are paying for a place to live. This idea that you are somehow burning money by renting instead of paying into a mortgage is insane IMO
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22452 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:00 pm to
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For most people under the age of 30 (and single people that are older than that) it is smart to rent. You are paying for a place to live. This idea that you are somehow burning money by renting instead of paying into a mortgage is insane IMO


As a single 30s guy that bought i house, this is 100% true.

Just take the amount of money you would have been paying toward your principle and put it in a housing index fund and you can ride the prices the same as everyone else.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26651 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:04 pm to
I know things are bad, but it's hard for me to believe it's the worst time to buy a house. Interest rates are nowhere near the 18 percent they were under Carter.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
16168 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:06 pm to
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I know things are bad, but it's hard for me to believe it's the worst time to buy a house. Interest rates are nowhere near the 18 percent they were under Carter.


Prices actually responded to interest rates then.

Homes were cheaper.
Posted by OKBoomerSooner
Member since Dec 2019
3127 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:13 pm to
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Some of those who bomb churches

Are the same that raise mortgages


RATM wishes they were this based
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48859 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:17 pm to
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who is they


Bernie Horowitz


Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6614 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 5:23 pm to
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So 1.5-2% property tax in a no-income-tax state? Doesn't seem that bad to me.


Travis County tax rate is right about 2.2%, not bad considering there's no state income tax
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
5039 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:43 pm to
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averaged size house in Austin/Dallas/Houston proper will probably be north of $1000 a month in property taxes as you're at roughly a $550-600k home valuation to be in that range.


Good GAWD that is theft. My house is 550-600k in SC and less than 2k per year.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14227 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:58 pm to
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For most people under the age of 30 (and single people that are older than that) it is smart to rent. You are paying for a place to live.


Exactly. Once you settle down in your job and personal life, get some stability and figure out where you want to live then you look at buying.

People are looking at the last 8 years or so and think that’s the norm. We’re obviously in a massive asset bubble and when it corrects it’s going to be a doozy. There were a shitload of people that overpaid prior to 2008 that were instantly upside down in their houses.
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