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re: WSJ Article: America’s Biggest Oil Field Is Turning Into a Pressure Cooker

Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:13 am to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83226 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:13 am to
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How do we turn saltwater and carbon dioxide into a fuel?


Mix with gasoline. Then remove the saltwater and carbon dioxide. Boom.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13648 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:14 am to
Does NVIDIA not sell racks that can be oil cooled?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19270 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:22 am to
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I understand why data centers will need a lot of electricity but why would they need large quantities of water?


They water cool their computer equipment. It's more efficient and effective than just blowing fans. Sorta like your car engine - it needs a radiator with water moving to adequately cool it.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17144 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:27 am to
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They water cool their computer equipment. It's more efficient and effective than just blowing fans. Sorta like your car engine - it needs a radiator with water moving to adequately cool it.


So why not use a closed system?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29535 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:40 am to
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So why not use a closed system?


Because the so called geniuses are too stupid to scalena simple PC rig upward.

It wouldn't even be hard. Automotive engineers have already spent the last century figuring out which coolant is safe for which metals.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
9503 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:44 am to
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Question for the uninformed like me. I understand why data centers will need a lot of electricity but why would they need large quantities of water?


The ones I've been on use a closed circuit (mostly) system of water chillers to cool water then push it across radiators with adjustable high CFM fans. The system is designed based on the rack setup inside each datahall in the datacenter. But they're still using in the multiple millions of gallons of water that needs to be supplemented due to loss over time.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
13648 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:45 am to
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
7098 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 11:46 am to
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some drillers report that water is migrating into their oil-and-gas reservoirs


Don't kill the messenger, but this happens with every single reservoir in the world.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14920 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:40 pm to
Maybe I’m oversimplifying this, but it’s basically dirty saltwater right?

Why not treat it and desalinate it and dump it into a river?

I’m sure that’s expensive as frick but it’s got to be preferable to creating random geysers and killing the fracking industry.

Have the operators pay into the Railroad Commission and the Railroad Commission runs the treatment and desalination plant.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14920 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:42 pm to
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why would they need large quantities of water?


Turns out microchips are really fricking hot.
This post was edited on 12/29/25 at 12:55 pm
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25364 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:44 pm to
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Because the so called geniuses are too stupid to scalena simple PC rig upward.

It wouldn't even be hard. Automotive engineers have already spent the last century figuring out which coolant is safe for which metals.

Water evaporates....
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104426 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Why not treat it and desalinate it and dump it into a river?


desalinization is prohibitively expensive. An economically feasible method would be a gamechanger, not only for uses like this, but for cities like Los Angeles to use for human consumption.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17144 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Water evaporates....


Hence the closed system concept. I just don’t understand why not.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89053 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:48 pm to
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desalinization is prohibitively expensive.


doesn't that process create a highly salty, slushy byproduct that is a problem of its own?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
25364 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:55 pm to
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Hence the closed system concept. I just don’t understand why not.

Water evaporation leaves behind calcium so you have to bring in new water to keep the calcium levels low.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104426 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:55 pm to
I'm not an engineer but I believe you're right.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14920 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:56 pm to
Next dumb question - why is it saltwater to start with? Where is this saltwater coming from that they are pumping in - the Gulf?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89053 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 12:57 pm to
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why is it saltwater to start with? Where is this saltwater coming from that they are pumping in - the Gulf?


the frack if I know
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27655 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:00 pm to
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doesn't that process create a highly salty, slushy byproduct that is a problem of its own?


Yes, which would need to be hauled to a waste disposal site. But...if there's a use for the water that helps alleviate some of the costly problem, then maybe the hauling and disposal of what's left becomes manageable.
Posted by Roughneck2020
San Antonio
Member since Nov 2020
229 posts
Posted on 12/29/25 at 1:01 pm to
They need more recycle pits to treat the water and then reuse it for their frac jobs. An exemption from severance taxes for wells fracked with salt water would be nice and also for any refrac, not just certain wells.
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