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re: Would you support the legalization of all drugs in the US?

Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:54 am to
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4960 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 3:54 am to
Yes. The federal, state, and local drug law enforcement is nothing but the arms and legs of big tobacco, big alcohol, and politicians who benefit from the drug dealers.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:00 am to
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Crime would sky rocket


Ridiculous. Drug crimes have only risen as prohibition has increased. You're supporting a proven failure.
Posted by bakersman
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2011
6033 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:15 am to
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Might it be worth it to just make the illegal drug industry disappear and see how it goes for awhile


That’s like saying make rape legal so trafficking will disappear.
We should legalize marijuana but not anything else
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4833 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:35 am to
Yes. Legalize, but only if there is drug testing for welfare benefits.

I know, muh alcohol.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 4:36 am to
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That’s like saying make rape legal so trafficking will disappear.


Terrible strawman.

One is a violent crime. One is not. Try harder.
Posted by BigWillieStyle
Member since Dec 2019
1703 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 5:05 am to
Hamsterdam
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 5:28 am to
no. crime wouldn't skyrocket, usage would.

the dirty secret of prohibition era USA is that it worked. usage plummeted. alcoholism, alcohol related accidents, work productivity all improved. it took years after prohibition ended for usage rates to rebound.

the effects of increasing hardcore narcotic usage in our society would be devastating. sure, crime related to the drug trade would improve, but what would liberalized drug usage do to families, the military, business, safety etc.

it would be a massive net negative.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 5:34 am
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16954 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:03 am to
No way.


Legalize marijuana maybe but not all.

Legalization will increase usage and there is no circumstance where that is beneficial to a society.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:06 am to
Decriminalize usage, place an emphasis on rehabilitation for addicts, but keep or increase penalties for dealing and creating drugs like meth, crack, pcp, and heroin illegal.

Not all drugs are created equal. Hyper addictive and destructive drugs should not be readily available for consumption.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 6:12 am
Posted by redbaron
Member since Aug 2011
764 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:08 am to
Yes.
I don’t think America has the stomach for that degree of laissez faire regarding personal rights; if it did we wouldn’t have had any support for these lockdowns.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:10 am to
If you asked the previous four posters if they support personal freedom they'd no doubt say yes. Until you put an issue to them. Then it's all big brother government must protect us from ourselves, we aren't responsible for our own actions.

Posted by GeauxWrek
Somewhere b/w Houston and BR
Member since Sep 2010
5022 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:14 am to
It would also need to bring back mental health institutions too.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:21 am to
Absolutely
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:23 am to
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It would also need to bring back mental health institutions too.


True. Unfortunately a large percentage of the homeless population in this country are very mentally ill people desperately self medicating and we destroyed most of the places they could seek help.

Schizophrenics, extreme bipolar, manic depressive, etc... it’s sad.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 6:31 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42795 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:27 am to
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the dirty secret of prohibition era USA is that it worked. usage plummeted. alcoholism, alcohol related accidents, work productivity all improved. it took years after prohibition ended for usage rates to rebound.


So did the mob and violent crime related to mob activities.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42795 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:29 am to
That’s not what breesus said at all. He just distinguished between marijuana and meth
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42795 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:29 am to
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It would also need to bring back mental health institutions too.


Ding ding ding.
Posted by Breesus
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69549 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:41 am to
They're trying to build a prison
Following the rights movements you clamped on with your iron fists
Drugs became conveniently available for all the kids

I buy my crack, I smack my bitch
Right here in Hollywood

Nearly two million Americans are incarcerated
In the prison system of the U.S.
They're trying to build a prison
For you and me

Minor drug offenders fill your prisons, you don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars against the new non-rich

All research and successful drug policies show
that treatment should be increased
And law enforcement decreased while abolishing
mandatory minimum sentences

Utilizing drugs to pay for
Secret wars around the world
Drugs are now your global policy
Now you police the globe

I buy my crack, I smack my bitch
Right here in Hollywood

Drug money is used to rig elections
And train brutal corporate sponsored
Dictators around the world
They're trying to build another prison system
For you and me
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:44 am to
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True. Unfortunately a large percentage of the homeless population in this country are very mentally ill people desperately self medicating and we destroyed most of the places they could seek help.


The same people that endorsed cutting mental health strongly endorse the failed war on drugs. This is not a coincidence.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42795 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:45 am to
System of a Down.

I was real young when I got that CD and it was the first time in my life I had heard anyone argue for drug legalization.
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