re: Would you drive this? 2021 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off Road

100% this, the TRD Pros always end up being $10-15k more than the TRD Off Road and about the only difference is wheels/tires, a different grill(ebay sells a knock off for $130), skid plates, a specialty color and the front is lifted a little. For the difference in price you could do a pretty bitchin suspension setup on a TRD OR and still be cheaper.

The one thing that Toyota does that pisses me off to no end is they ONLY offer the specialty colors on the 4Runner in the TRD Pro line, yet in the Tacoma and Tundra you can get the specialty colors in the lowly SR5 spec. That's bullshite. I'd kill for a TRD Off Road 4Runner in cement or voodoo blue but no way I'm paying the markup for a TRD Pro just for a color.

I'm on my 4th runner. Thought I would be getting TRD Pro this go around but opted out because I couldn't justify the price.

Instead, got another SR5 4x4 with a 2 inch suspension lift and the aftermarket wheels/tires. Looks extremely similar. Black paint with blue metallic sheen in it. Was slightly used by a car dealership owner's kid. I love it because I'm taller and the suspension allows me to slide right in. there's no climbing up or bending down to get in.

I removed the running boards and got a grill guard. Next upgrades:

-removing third row seat (its useless) to add cargo space.
-side canopy tent for camping/festivals
-some type of nerf bar setup for my wife. she struggles getting up in it

I don’t trust hybrid yet. The batteries go bad after the two year warranty and they are expensive to replace with a new one. Refurbished ones are cheaper but who would want a refurbished battery that will go out in two years anyway?

I’m enjoying the Highlander. Very luxurious drive

My next vehicle is going to be one. My truck ill hold for probably two more years unless the engine or transmission goes. I'll buy a year off used with 30-50k miles if possible. Its what we did for the girls car and my Moms car I helped her finance.

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I don’t trust hybrid yet.

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You don't trust Toyota hybrid tech in 2021?

It is possible to have both.

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The tech is advanced, but simple at the same time. And it works and won’t break.

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Entune is quite possibly the most garbage user interface in all of auto manufacturing. Not intuitive, not easy to use, slow.

The excuses Toyota cultists use to justify their lack of basic functioning by modern standards are adorable though. And I love Toyotas and have owned several.

Well that's good to hear, my most recent experience is in a 2018 model.

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Honda and Toyota test tech in the actual market and use “addition by subtraction” methods. It’s simple tech that is useful.

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The first generation of all UI's were absolute crap (BMW iDrive, Cadillac CUE, Ford Sync, Toyota EnTune etc.). For some reason, Toyota and Honda haven't really evolved as quickly as their competitors since then. Simply put, the American's do automotive UI better than anyone right now.

Even the Europeans have come a long way very rapidly. Volvo went from one of the worst in the industry to one of the best in just a few years. BMW and Audi have done well after completely bombing their earlier systems.

Toyota/Lexus and Acura/Honda are still trying to find their way in that respect. They've improved, but they are still not competitive relative to other mainstream manufacturers.

Just bought a 2021 TRD Off Road Premium this week. I had been browsing for a 4Runner for the past month and the pickings were slim. I originally wanted a used one but if you could find one that was relatively recent and low miles, the cost was almost as much as a new one. Besides that they're flying out the door as soon as they're listed.

I live in western PA and I looked at dealerships from Pittsburgh to DC and many didn't have any in stock. I found this one last Saturday and it was the only one at our local dealership and it was pretty much take it or leave it when it came to negotiating price and trade in (2015 F150). New ones are being bought online before they even hit the lots, it's crazy.

So far I love it, drives great on some the mountain roads around our house and it will be much better in the snow next winter. I figure it will last long enough that I can hand it off to my son when he turns 16 in a decade too. I've seen on this board and many others that people don't like the limited tech, but that doesn't really bother me. As long as it has radio and gps, I'm cool. I will say though, it is mind boggling that they don't have auto headlights and a push button rear hatch.