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re: Would you buy a new car if you knew the engine would only last about 10 years?

Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by SouthernStyled
Member since Apr 2021
1307 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:36 pm to
The only thing missing from your shite story is that in this version gas costs about five cents a gallon.

That's an easy trade off for all the other shite you mentioned.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 10:37 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15047 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:49 pm to
Yeah the feeling is somewhat intoxicating. The torque is real, and measurable. But something about the lack of distraction and way the silent, violent application of force happens, is giggle inducing. That’s all in a Tesla with garbage brakes and suspension, I can only imagine a Porsche.

I did see that vid this week and it’s… impressive. I’m an ICE lover, as my avi portrays with my current fun car. But damn there’s some cool shite coming out. It’s a good time o be a car enthusiast, just different. Maybe this is how the carb sniffer felt when EFI showed up, to a lesser degree.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36434 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 10:58 pm to
I think in the next few decades the switch is going to happen because

1) cost of gas will likely continue to rise, making the electric cars more appealing cost wise

2) insurance on non self driving “regular” cars will skyrocket, while self driving car insurance will be same or cheaper than current rates

Eventually gas engines and regular “human driven” cars will be considered luxury items

the transition will be interesting, I’m envisioning a cash for clunkers type program where the government will give big rebates for people to switch and/or retrofit their cars to self driving
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 11:00 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15047 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:03 pm to
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The problem is that they are going to be government mandated eventually which I do have a problem with.

The biggest driver of current EV targets is not the government, but rather the capital markets refusing to invest in companies that are not pursuing this tech.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48609 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:06 pm to
So the takeaway here is it takes a $2.4mm supercar to beat a $129,000 electric car in a race?

Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
22461 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:07 pm to
People buy Chrysler products all the time. Why, I have no idea.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 11:28 pm
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:09 pm to
Why does it bother you that people want cars that you don't want?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15047 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:23 pm to
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So the takeaway here is it takes a $2.4mm supercar to beat a $129,000 electric car in a race?

Yes and no. The rimac is a specialty car while the Tesla is a mass prod car. Put them on anything but a drag strip and the Tesla gets its arse kicked so bad it’s in a different camera frame. However, the Tesla is a BMF and I’m not justifying the rimac price or shitting on the Tesla because the reality is that super car development has always been wonky at best.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:24 pm to
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Maybe this is how the carb sniffer felt when EFI showed up, to a lesser degree.


I lived through that shift and their wasn't too much backlash on the production side, they just worked better. On the drag racing side it stayed carbs for a LONG time, even through today, aside for the impossible to setup mechanical FI we had no way to tune an EFI. That was the days of TRS80 and Commodore computers the concept of plugging a computer into a drag car and doing simple things like adjusting fuel air mixture was like space flight, maybe somebody could do it but ti wasn't us.

I think the closest thing I have seen is the manual vs the various automated gear boxes. It has a similar level of passion just in a much smaller subset. I still have a 3 pedal car and will probably keep it running as long as I can because it is still loads of fun but I seriously doubt I will ever buy a NEW one. Unless you are channeling Senna if you are in a "fast" modern car most people are going to get that feeling of always being behind the car when you are going near 9/10ths. As I get older I oddly get less entrenched 10 years ago I wouldn't buy a automated box but know I think the PDK is the best thing since barely legal rubber.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102324 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:25 pm to
Well the kind I've bought in the past has depreciated 25% the minute I drove it off the lot, so...
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 11:28 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15047 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:32 pm to
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On the drag racing side it stayed carbs for a LONG time, even through today

I lived through this and it’s why I mentioned it. I got so much hate tuning FAST, BS3, and MOTEC cars for years. All while kicking peoples asses. I helped FAST dev the XFI, which was fly as frick at the time. Now that’s dinosaur tech.

Agreed on the trans tech. I drove an e-gear lambo at COTA and I was beside myself with how terrible it was combared to my DCT first world problems.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:34 pm to
I change vehicles every few years so not really worried about it. I drive a lot. The truck I’ve had for six years but that is not driven much so would damage a Tesla engine either with how little I use it now.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:35 pm to
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the engine would only last about 10 years?

iPhone batteries last way less than that
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20015 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:44 pm to
EV’s are for soys and climate-change zealots.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15047 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 11:54 pm to
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EV’s are for soys and climate-change zealots.

This is the kind of quality response I expect on TD.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2612 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 12:10 am to
So you're buying american?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 2:59 am to
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Sound like the car for you?


Depends, what’s the 1/4 mile time?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
60816 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:23 am to
If you’re following this generations trends and whims, then that’s the pattern you need to avoid.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20868 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:32 am to
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Why does it bother you that people want cars that you don't want?


1) tax subsidies
2) government mandates

Tell me about freedom to choose…?
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
11108 posts
Posted on 8/20/21 at 4:58 am to
I am an early adopter, love new tech, I've been following EV's for years looking for the right stuff. Self driving technology is just not ready for prime time, if you have to sit there the whole time waiting to take control, you might as well drive.

I can see EV's as a second, "around town" car, but if you travel distances, I don't see the benefit. Suppose you're on the I-10 between BR-Lafayette, the typical tie up and you can be sitting there for hours, if you don't have a full charge what happens? A hurricane is coming, you want to evacuate your $80K beauty to high ground, but the roads are a parking lot, are you going to haul around a diesel generator?

Gov't needs gasoline taxes, so EV's are going to have to be hit with road use taxes once the numbers start to make a difference, can the grid support it?

I wish there were better answers than the ones I get, but for now I'll stick to my high mileage IC.
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