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re: Would the world be better off if women stayed home
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:54 am to Salmon
Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:54 am to Salmon
i'm sure many career women would love to stay home. when you are 30 years old and 8-10 years deep into a career that pays just as much as your husband's it is very hard to make that choice. i'm sure many men on here would say that is selfish though. dividing your household income in HALF is not easy, even if you are willing to make sacrifices.
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 11:58 am to UniqueNewYork
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it is very hard to make that choice.
It is a very hard decision. Absolutely.
And the thing is, many people, especially upper middle class families, don't necessarily have to make the sacrifice in order for their children to be successful.
But again. We are speaking in terms of optimal vs sub optimal.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:00 pm to Darth_Vader
I’ve always been pro stay at home mom, especially with kids not yet in school
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:07 pm to Darth_Vader
If it is about child-rearing, how about one parent at home? Blows the traditional narrative, but women are making decent money now.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:09 pm to UniqueNewYork
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all of you who say women should stay home... do you have daughters? if so, are you teaching them that they should get an education and be independent? that they should have a career and be able to support themselves? then once they get married and have children will you expect them to give up said career? if you take years off to raise your children it will be almost impossible to re-enter the workforce at anywhere near the salary you were making when you quit. this is why women who are intelligent and educated are putting their children in daycare. they make too much money to stay home and do not want to have a career setback that will cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars over those 4 years that their children will be at home all day.
I don’t define people’s lives by their career or how much money they’ve made so I encourage my daughter to do what makes her happy.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:24 pm to yellowfin
I think you're missing the point. Of course everyone wants their children to be happy. But there is more of a push for girls to be financially independent. Girls are not only focused on getting a "Mrs Degree". Having a career or supporting ones self doesn't necessarily mean making tons of money, but why wouldn't a woman want to earn as much money as possible if she is following the career path of her choosing? Of course money isn't everything. But I think more and more we are seeing women who are happy working AND raising children. Now is that OPTIMAL? I don't know. I am just offering an explanation of why stay-at-home moms are more rare these days.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:27 pm to Darth_Vader
Yes or at least the man should stay home. My wife is a homemaker and it makes life so much easier. I couldn't imagine if she worked outside of the house 40 hours a week.
The first requirement is that you have to be a baller though.
The first requirement is that you have to be a baller though.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:34 pm to kingbob
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Jobs didn’t pay more: housing, healthcare, and education just cost substantially less.
You can't even be serious. It just stands to reason that when employers had half as many potential employees to choose from, they had to pay higher wages. Simple law of supply and demand their bro.
No serious discussion of the topic claims otherwise, instead the discussion is solely based on "does having women in the work place have advantages that outweigh lower wages overall" not unlike the current conversation about illegal immigrants. There is ZERO doubt that adding low skilled illegal immigrants to the available workforce drives down wages, the only question is are there other advantages that make it worth it?
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:38 pm to georgia
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the caveat to this being that ideally all women are marriage material? if so, some of you gentleman are going to have to start lowering your standards, yes? what do you propose happens to the OT2's? we just start auctioning women off to the highest bidder?
OT 2s become practice girlfriends, as God intended.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:49 pm to UniqueNewYork
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I am just offering an explanation of why stay-at-home moms are more rare these days.
My explanation is keeping up with the Jones. Wife can’t stay home and have her McMansion and her LTZ Tahoe
That rewarding career sitting in a cubicle for 60k is a byproduct
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:50 pm to yellowfin
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Wife can’t stay home and have her McMansion and her LTZ Tahoe
Maybe your wife can't..............
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:53 pm to achenator
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I don't know about the world but my home is definitely better by my wife staying home.
100% agree with this right here.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 2:06 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Mine doesn’t work and is a trust fun baby 
And I’d never live in a McMansion
And I’d never live in a McMansion
Posted on 9/25/18 at 2:15 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
If you adjust for inflation, wages aren’t any lower today than they were then. Some things, such as food, clothing, and gasoline actually cost substantially less. However, certain expenses have grown far faster than inflation, forcing families to require two incomes to afford those things for their children.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 2:58 pm to fightin tigers
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less diversity in the work place contributing to less effective problem solving.
I have yet to meet a woman that can problem solve. Usually they just bitch about the problem and then bitch at you when you try to help, because you’re only supposed to listen
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:08 pm to Darth_Vader
No.
I just don't believe society should force people into having certain roles.
If that is what works for some families then that is great. In today's world, it would be difficult for a lot of families to make it just on one salary.
During WWII I think woman proved they can do more than just stay home and take care of kids and cook dinner.
If most women stayed home and took care of the kids, cooked, etc that would become the social norm so that would hurt women who don't want to marry and have their own career.
I just don't believe society should force people into having certain roles.
If that is what works for some families then that is great. In today's world, it would be difficult for a lot of families to make it just on one salary.
During WWII I think woman proved they can do more than just stay home and take care of kids and cook dinner.
If most women stayed home and took care of the kids, cooked, etc that would become the social norm so that would hurt women who don't want to marry and have their own career.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:13 pm to UniqueNewYork
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i'm sure many career women would love to stay home. when you are 30 years old and 8-10 years deep into a career that pays just as much as your husband's it is very hard to make that choice. i'm sure many men on here would say that is selfish though. dividing your household income in HALF is not easy, even if you are willing to make sacrifices.
The wife and I did it. Was nice as a shift worker having the sex and always going to work with a hot plate of food.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:19 pm to rickyh
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My wife made homemaking her career. Our kids did great in school and are well rounded individuals.
What does your wife do now that you don't have kids at home? Sit at home and twiddle her thumbs?
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:22 pm to fishfighter
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Was nice as a shift worker having the sex
I'm sure Jody enjoyed it.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 3:25 pm to Epic Cajun
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What does your wife do now that you don't have kids at home? Sit at home and twiddle her thumbs?
Mine went back into the work force part time till the kids finished school. She retired at 50 when I got sick and retired at 52.
She still goes to work maybe one day a month. 
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