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re: Would like some basketball help for those who can

Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:45 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:45 am to
Well, if they switch then theoretically you get a mismatch to take advantage of.

You should also have a few set plays to run out of your look. If you just run motion all game long it's going to be a long game for your team.
Posted by deriddertigah
deridder, la.
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 7:49 am to
If they are switching, the screener should pin and roll back to the ball. Basically replace the cutter. Cutter has to see it happening and replace the picker. Offense continues... if you can get kids to really read that switch and execute that simple little adjustment the defense won;t be switching for long.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:23 am to
We've got 4 set plays but we don't run them very often. I guess that's on me but I figured we should save them for a time when we really need a bucket
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:24 am to
You don't have a basic motion type of offense that you can run set plays out of?

Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:28 am to
What's been happening Is they switch but then my guys either dont finish the cut or they jog to the corner and come back up to reset the offense and they switch back so we can't take advantage of the mismatch idk what to tell them other than tho just finish your cut
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:29 am to
If they switch the first action the 1 drives hard and either looks for the FT/Elbow pull up, hits the first roller (5) or kicks out to a wing. The help will usually move into the lane to take away a layup. You can also have the 2 back cut if his defender peels off to help pack the lane. Your 4 (the screener for the screener) either stays at that key area or pops back to the 3 pt line. A quick pass to 3 also puts the 5 in position to receive a pass off the roll and if they’ve switched he’s making a beeline to the bucket with a little guy chasing him (of course this is boys we’re talking about so im rambling at this point )

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:30 am to
I don’t get basketball either. I think only people that went to public school like it
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:33 am to
Yeah we've got one kid who's a 6'5 freshman as our center. Hes lanky and uncoordinated but can play a little bit if I can get him on some guards he should be able to dominate
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:34 am to
Nice. When you said junior boys I assumed elem age
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:36 am to
quote:

should my screener try to pin his guy and spin to the basket
sometimes
quote:

would he sandwich the guy hes screening for who is curling
sometimes

You have to mix it up and start teaching the screener and the player coming off of the screen how to read and react to the defender to know whether screen and roll, pin screen to use your terminology, pick and pop, slip screen, etc.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 8:37 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:37 am to
Been in the HS basketball coaching game for 11 years. First off focus on teaching defense. Zone traps are deadly in middle school and in HS. 4 on 5 shell drill is a great defensive drill. Get the kids in shape. Run the hell out of them and control 4th quarters. Offense is a about spacing, spacing, and more spacing. Youtube is your friend for ideas for drills and actions.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18638 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:38 am to
Nooo. Junior high. Grades 7-9
Posted by Hammond Tiger Fan
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:39 am to
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So I'm a first year teacher/coach and I'm coaching junior boys basketball. I never played basketball, watched it growing up but dont understand a whole lot about the game from a strategy and technical standpoint


Your team is going to suck with you as the lead. Is there a way you can bring in someone who is knowledgeable that you can learn from to gain some experience while being thrown in the fire?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:58 am to
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dont finish the cut or they jog to the corner


Have you taught them the basic cuts? V-Cut, L-Cut, UCLA-Cut. Do you drill them in their cuts and impress upon them the importance of doing the cuts correctly and not being lazy or jogging through the cuts? It doesn't matter what you're running. If they're lazy and don't put effort into it it won't work.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27522 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:35 am to
Just make sure they know to move towards the ball, or at least away from the defense. Kids like to try getting open towards the basket, that’s a nearly impossible pass to make.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28115 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 4:58 pm to
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No shite. We scored less than 35 points last night because I'm coaching a bunch of 5'4 white boys who think they shoot like steph and refuse to attack the basket.
If you want to score more and get easy buckets at the rim (which is where the vast majority of your points should come from at the middle school level), you should run the fast break like crazy and run a simple press.

The 1-2-2 press is a simple press that middle schoolers can run, yet it's extremely effective and it's used at all levels. Villanova runs it, for example.

It's a full-court zone press and you will create a LOT of turnovers for your team and get easy buckets in transition. Middle school kids get flustered easily under pressure, and it will create a lot of turnovers.

You can search google for it and get a million results on how to run it.



Also, have your team run in transition and push the ball like crazy. This is also extremely effective at the middle school level and you will get lay-up after lay-up. As soon as you get the rebound, push it and look to score in transition. Middle schoolers will not have good transition defense because defending the break is difficult at all levels, and at the middle school level the offense will have a huge advantage there.

I'm assuming you have a transition offense to get your guys out and running their proper lanes for a clean fast break.



Doing those two things, you won't even need to run your half-court motion offense all that often and you'll get a bunch of easy buckets.
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3347 posts
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:07 pm to
The screener should set screen then pivot roll to the inside to make himself available for a pass as well as pick of the guy he is screening if they dont switch. if they switch he will have the defender pinned and be open for a pass inside at least on the down pics wing to post.
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