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Anaximander
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Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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There are multiple statues of Julius Caesar and other ROman figures in England. Caesar invaded England in 55-54 BC which led to almost 400 years of Roman enslavement of an entire nation. All must go.


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The Egyptian pyramids must go. While there is evidence that slaves may not have been used to build them they are, nevertheless, tributes to Pharoahs who enslaved entire nations of peoples.


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The ancient Mayan pyramids must be leveled. The Mayans had a standardized system of slavery and even commoners in the empire were likely to own slaves.


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The Great Wall was began by King Zheng, the First Emperor of the Qin dynasty. Slavery flourished under Zheng as well as those that continued the construction.


Image: https://www.japanvisitor.com/images/content_images/yasukuni2018.jpg


Yasukuni Shrine in Tokyo must go. Among the 2,466,532 men, women and children whose names are inscibed are 1,068 convicted war criminals.

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The Prophet Muhammad, who Mecca is a tribute to, himself bought, sold, captured, and owned slaves. It has to go.


We are going to need a lot of wrecking balls because the woke folks are too ignorant to understand two facts that exist side by side:

1. Slavery is despicable. To indenture another human is inacceptable.
2. Slavery was not created by nor unique to the United States of America. It sadly has been around since the beginning of time and there is no race which has not both kept slaves or been enslaved. The founding fathers probably should have abolished it and instead made a daunting deal to avoid doing so. But we inherited the use of slaves from the British, Dutch, Spanish, French and Italians as well as the leaders of African countries who sold the folks they captured in civil wars to the slave traders. We outlawed the practice over a century ago yet the attention is on us rather than the African and Middle Eastern nations where slavery still exists to this day.

You do not move forward by destroying and renaming everything. You go forward by educating people.



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upgrayedd
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
Big Scrub TX told me that destroying objects is not destroying history because they're still in history books. So all those objects are fair game.


Anaximander
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
So I guess he is on board? Think of all the demolition jobs.


DustyDinkleman
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
Good luck with all that


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lepdagod
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
Nice try ... we talking about the United States problems ...


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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
Copy/paste this for all the “St0l3n LaND!” freaks every Fourth of July and thanksgiving.


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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
He listens to podcasts that feature black intellectuals. You better listen to him.
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upgrayedd
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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Copy/paste this for all the “St0l3n LaND!” freaks every Fourth of July and thanksgiving.



The single moms on father's day flex is coming up and its gonna be glorious


Anaximander
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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Nice try ... we talking about the United States problems ...



It is exemplar to the issue. Whether you want it to be or not. It is also the biggest problem many of the woke have in that they value symbolism OVER substance. This is why they have elected progressives to run major cities for half a century despite epic failure to serve people of color. The folks running SAID the right thing and failed those they pretended to represent.


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soccerfüt
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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But we inherited the use of slaves from the British, Dutch, Spanish, French and Italians
Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and others called in to say “You forgot us!”


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Penrod
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
I upvoted your post because it is largely correct. However, I disagree about statues honoring the likes of Robert E Lee. While I think Lee was a good man, he nonetheless fought on the wrong side in a moral war. I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?


Jason9782003
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
Tearing down monuments has nothing to do with slavery or black lives. It's about tearing down the USA, the Constitution, and capitalism.


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rintintin
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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However, I disagree about statues honoring the likes of Robert E Lee. While I think Lee was a good man, he nonetheless fought on the wrong side in a moral war. I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?



That's just the thing. Despicable people (and I don't necessarily think Robert E Lee was a despicable person) will be memorialized throughout history due to the dominant thinking of the time. As thinking progresses or changes people will realize certain people weren't so great, or that they simply had flaws.

It doesn't mean those memorials should be removed though IMO. They are still an important part of history. A reminder, if you will, of what things were. It's an educational piece.

Progressives aren't interested in only the Confederacy, and they've shown that. It will turn into any part of "white" history they don't agree with. Giving in to these demands creates a slippery slope.

I've traveled to many countries around the world and I enjoy history. Some great historical monuments would be lost if we abided by this Progressive thinking.


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GetCocky11
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
The Saudis did a pretty good job of tearing down a ton of Mecca when they took over.


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caill430
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
The US can’t get rid of CHAZ good luck with that. Maybe if we burn all the books it will all go away


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blafayette
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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I upvoted your post because it is largely correct. However, I disagree about statues honoring the likes of Robert E Lee. While I think Lee was a good man, he nonetheless fought on the wrong side in a moral war. I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?



Did Lee just live from 1861-65? Maybe he actually fought FOR the United States in another war. Perhaps his skills as an American officer led to the defeat of the Mexican army during the Mexican-American War. Had the Mexican army defeated our troops, would they have marched on the southern US? Would that not be enough to memorialize General Lee? Does one infamous act negate all the positive contributions of a man? If so, why are we memorializing George Floyd? He held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly.


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Peazey
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
You are going through a lot of mental gymnastics to justify the glorification of people whose entire image is built around the defense of the institution of slavery.


soccerfüt
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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I don’t think Lee should be disparaged, but I also don’t see the reason to memorialize him. If we’re going to memorialize people from that era it should be folks like Lincoln and Grant. Or how about southerners who fought for the north on principled grounds?
The monuments to Confederate leaders were (generally) erected by veterans or the children of veterans of that war. These people had a direct personal connection to the folks on the monuments. The monuments need to be considered in this context.

Also, no one is advocating today building new monuments to Confederate leaders or even Union leaders, for that matter.

We don’t really do that much monument building anymore.


magildachunks
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
The melt is strong in y'all.


magildachunks
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re: Worldwide we have some demolition to do...So we start with Mecca?
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The monuments to Confederate leaders were (generally) erected by veterans or the children of veterans of that war. These people had a direct personal connection to the folks on the monuments. The monuments need to be considered in this context.





That isn't the reason they were built.


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