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re: World's Top 500 Universities according to latest Academic Ranking of World Universities

Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:24 pm to
I read the methodology.. Based primarily on award willing and published alumni and faculty. More valid than many I've seen.

So it is in fact valid and Tulane sucks

"Universities are ranked by several indicators of academic or research performance, including alumni and staff winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals, highly cited researchers, papers published in Nature and Science, papers indexed in major citation indices, and the per capita academic performance of an institution"
This post was edited on 8/23/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4449 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:26 pm to
Meh, that's just ranking research output with apparently no per capita considerations for size of the schools, not academic quality in terms of undegrad education. The two are largely unrelated.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:26 pm to
Alabama has a top ranked law school
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:28 pm to
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Alabama has a top ranked law school



in the state of Alabama maybe
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:29 pm to
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no per capita considerations


" and the per capita academic performance of an institution"

Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4449 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:30 pm to
There's no mention of per capita weighting for the research output considerations. That LSU education is failing you old timer
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6566 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:34 pm to
If they don’t consider “strength of schedule” the list is bogus.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:37 pm to
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There's no mention of per capita weighting for the research output considerations.


OK, you finally found one 'possible' flaw after 2 strikes. So it's not a perfect system, but definitely shows that Tulane is vastly over-rated.

The thing that Tulane does excel in as it was at one time the NUMBER ONE 2nd choice university in America! May still be for all I know.

You're NUMBER ONE at being number 2

Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7101 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:39 pm to
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There are many kids in Louisiana that are going to undergrad school at Alabama, It is the damnest thing I have seen. There is a sophomore in Monroe that has already lit up the ACT and Bama will be the school


My son’s school had 6 co-Valedictorians this year. I think 3 were headed to University of South Alabama. Mind-boggling.
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8634 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:47 pm to
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5 University of California, Berkeley

If you want to take fascism 101, it is.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:50 pm to
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There are many kids in Louisiana that are going to undergrad school at Alabama,



giving away LOTS of money to go there....they have 50% out of state kids...easy entry and they pay. Full ride with a 32/33 or something. Louisiana kid can't get that at LSU, but can at 'bama.

Georgia and Florida are 85% local and basically don't let out of state in. Don't give away much when they do.

LSU in the middle somewhere
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:53 pm to
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Where's the list of student debt coming out of those top 10 universities..?


Most of those schools have huge endowments, if you are accepted you pay based on your financial ability, a significant percentage pay zero, and few graduate with any debt.

Harvard for example,

"Because we seek the best students regardless of their ability to pay, we are committed to meeting 100 percent of demonstrated financial need for all four years. International students receive exactly the same financial aid as Americans. In fact, approximately 70 percent of our students receive some form of aid, and about 60 percent receive need–based scholarships and pay an average of $12,000 per year. Twenty percent of parents pay nothing. No loans required."
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:54 pm to
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Because we seek the best students

Lol
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
4809 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:57 pm to
Robert Oppenheimer was associated with 5 of the top 10 Universities:

Attended Harvard and Cambridge, and taught at Cal-Berkeley, Cal Tech, and Princeton.

That man was the bomb!
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118959 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:57 pm to
Top 500 liberal universities?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:58 pm to
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LSU tops Tulane who comes in at 601-700.


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They must be using a ridiculous methodology


Probably factored in stadium upgrades.
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18144 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 3:59 pm to
No military academies in the top 1000

probably because this ranking is from a Chinese site. They no likey our armies
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83346 posts
Posted on 8/23/18 at 4:02 pm to
Where did Devry rank?
Posted by majoredinwhitehorse
lower alabama
Member since Nov 2016
803 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:55 am to
Ranked by Nobel laureates and publishing rhetoric from their ivory towers-
Show me the rankings based on earnings as an employee or entrepreneur, not as an investor or inheritee.
That’s the data I want to see.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4409 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 11:04 am to
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No Yale? Wow.

To hell with Yale.
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