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Working from home - how many jobs eliminated?

Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:01 am
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:01 am
Going to be a lot of positions turned into contractor jobs when bosses realize they are paying people full time wages to do maybe 2-3 hours of actual work a day.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79875 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:34 am to
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Going to be a lot of positions turned into contractor jobs when bosses realize they are paying people full time wages to do maybe 2-3 hours of actual work a day.


So your thought is that management will be able to monitor employee's work habits more now that they are working from home?
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 5:36 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:36 am to
I believe you are correct. Just line in 2008, management will learn all the wrong lessons from this and wages will stagnate further and workers will be viewed even more replaceable.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:38 am to
Probably bad for boomers with zero technological knowledge/skills.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 5:39 am
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:39 am to
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So your thought is that management will be able to monitor employee's work habits more now that they are working from home?


It will expose all the idiots who prioritize looking busy and kissing arse.

If you have no face to face interaction or meetings, you'll be judged solely on what you produce. I love it, ready to cull the herd.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79875 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:43 am to
That is some theory you have.

There is no wonder why you have probably been passed over for multiple promotions.


FYI, remote working still involves plenty of teleconferencing.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 5:45 am
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:45 am to
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There is no wonder why you have probably been passed over for multiple promotions


Wrong. Always been promoted on first look
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79875 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:46 am to
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Wrong. Always been promoted on first look



If this is true then you should have already culled the herd.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31636 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:11 am to
This is quite possibly the most Boomer trait in business that needs to go.

If a business owner is paying attention, brick and mortar office space is the single most expensive overhead expense on the vast majority of businesses books. If you have an opportunity to reduce that cost by reducing your footprint it’s a direct impact to your bottom line.

I’m a CM grad and have worked for small businesses for the majority of my career in construction. The last company I worked for was making huge strides in mobile office, had a Superintendant that ran his entire job from an iPad. I’d spend roughly 75% of my time in the field and routinely would work from home, especially when i was prepping for contracts. It was far easier for me to get my wife and kid out of the house and dive into a set of prints on my kitchen table than driving into BR through traffic and dealing with that crap.

You pay a man a salary to perform a job. Either he does it efficiently or he doesn’t. I worked with a boomer PM at one company that was literally my fathers age. We both had 2-3 jobs going at a time. We both were very effective in delivering work and making money. He rarely left the office before 7pm and was in working just about every Saturday. If I worked a weekend it was typically in the field.

In this company i routinely got shite from my boss about the hours i worked. Didn’t matter that I was much more efficient at what I did. For example, I learned to use on screen estimating software and could do concrete and masonry takeoffs in hours where it would take him days to do it by hand. But far too many boomer bosses still equate productivity to the number of hours spent butt in seat.

Now there is an accountability piece on your side. You’ve got to be disciplined enough to do your job, and that will be a culture shock to people that have never worked remotely before. But my hope is people will look at this and realize with technology and mobile communications there are opportunities to really examine how business can operate in 2020
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
82439 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:13 am to
Um, you do realize that demand is going to be lower during the lockdown, thus there will be less work for everyone to do?
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
53025 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:19 am to
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Probably bad for boomers with zero technological knowledge/ski


shite millennials and Z’s are screwed now. Boomers and Xer’s gonna have to work an extra 10 years just to recoup losses.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:20 am to
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this company i routinely got shite from my boss about the hours i worked. Didn’t matter that I was much more efficient at what I did.


Your forgetting that the guy who pays you may want you physically at work. I don’t disagree with your post, but I think most- not all- employers still want employees to be AT work when they are paying them.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
83590 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:22 am to


Where is Andrew Wang and his Universal Basic Income when you need him most?
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17211 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:26 am to
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Probably bad for boomers with zero technological knowledge/skills.


What a joke, I know many boomers who work from home and are more productive than others who are sitting in their office. It's not rocket science to use VPN, WebEx, Teams, etc.

I will be splitting time between being on site and working from home. I come in at 5:30, handle things that need to be done in the field, then spend the rest of the day working remotely. Much of the time I need to be in the field but to do procedure updates, reporting, and all the other stuff I can do it from the house just as easy as being in the office. Once this virus crap is over, I'll go back to normal routine.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 6:31 am
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13718 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:31 am to
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You’ve got to be disciplined enough to do your job, and that will be a culture shock to people that have never worked remotely before.


This is the key. If they sit around watching netflix and napping it will come to light at some point. No different in sales.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37483 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:31 am to
quote:

Your forgetting that the guy who pays you may want you physically at work. I don’t disagree with your post, but I think most- not all- employers still want employees to be AT work when they are paying them.
Which is shortsighted if your work can be performed anywhere, and you are able to be reached via phone/Skype/etc...
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:46 am to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
7490 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 6:56 am to
Just because you are working at home does not make you less productive. I made my wfh environment as close as I can to the office.

I have a docking station, 3 monitors, same keyboard, etc. I get a hell of a lot done. I will also get a few things done around the house, yesterday I got dinner started.

I do have friends that working from home means a day off where you just answer emails and watch YouTube. There is definitely both sides.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 7:00 am to
Do you get paid for WHAT YOU DO, or HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO DO IT?
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