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re: Woodside reaches $17.5B investment decision on Lake Charles LNG facility

Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by LSURoss
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Member since Dec 2007
16114 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Lake Charles remains so shitty


I was born and raised in Shreveport and moved down here 2-1/2 years ago. The parks alone make this city awesome.

Plenty of places to go fish/kayak and take the kids. We love it down here.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:54 pm to
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Its amazing Lake Charles remains so shitty with how much money has been spent in a very small radius around the city. I know, hurricanes, but its still pretty wild.


i mean its got a pretty robust housing market, lots of restaurants for a city that size, great golf, casinos and pretty good schools.

what are you wanting to see there? there is a ton of development going on along the lake front.

but you have to remember...the LC metro area is still only a little over 200k, you arent going to have big city type attractions there as they cant be supported to make it profitable.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:56 pm to
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I was born and raised in Shreveport and moved down here 2-1/2 years ago. The parks alone make this city awesome.

Plenty of places to go fish/kayak and take the kids. We love it down here.


yea not sure what people want.

needs better recreation facilities for sure in LC but overall its not bad

i think its because people drive only along I-10 and assume thats it and never get off.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:57 pm to
Who knows. Most people I see complaining relate it to nightlife and dating scene.

Also, they have been doing a ton of civil work to the north of SHAW on Lincoln rd. is that where this facility is going?
Posted by Buga_Scores
L.C
Member since Jul 2014
1859 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:00 pm to
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Also, they have been doing a ton of civil work to the north of SHAW on Lincoln rd. is that where this facility is going?

Louisiana LNG will be located in Carlyss (about 3 or 4 miles north of Cameron LNG in Hackberry)
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:01 pm to
Ahh, gotcha. Any idea what is going north of SHAW?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450259 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:04 pm to
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yea not sure what people want.

needs better recreation facilities for sure in LC but overall its not bad

People always bitch about "stuff to do".

When new stuff comes, those people don't "do the stuff to do" and the businesses fail.

Posted by Buga_Scores
L.C
Member since Jul 2014
1859 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:05 pm to
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Ahh, gotcha. Any idea what is going north of SHAW?

There is another LNG facility by Shaw. It used to be called Trunkline, but Energy Transfer bought it. They should be announcing FID soon.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Who knows. Most people I see complaining relate it to nightlife and dating scene.

Also, they have been doing a ton of civil work to the north of SHAW on Lincoln rd. is that where this facility is going?


not sure, i havent been out that far in a min. usually stop just short of there

as far as nightlife goes...we have the casino...wtf they want from a metro of 200k that is mainly families?

as far as dating...wtf do they want
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34726 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:17 pm to
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People always bitch about "stuff to do".

When new stuff comes, those people don't "do the stuff to do" and the businesses fail.



exactly...its quite comical. or culture takes over and the business suddenly fails and the same people that ruined it are the ones bitching
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
11166 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:18 pm to
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i think its because people drive only along I-10 and assume thats it and never get off.


Yeah LC is at its worst along I10. Not much to do about that....maybe....depending on who wins Mayors race.

Sidenote...i wish the powers that be could get them to build a vehicle bridge at this location! Connecting South Lake Charles (at Henry Pugh Blvd at Calcasieu Point) to South Carlyss/Sulphur area (at Burton Shipyard Road) would do wonders for the area.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24769 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:20 pm to
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time for the dumb "why lousiana stays poor" video to start making the rounds again


Oh yeah, that’s true. Need to add Louisiana Budget Project to my above list of organizations who like to hinder economic growth in the state.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8366 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Somebody call Birdseed.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:25 pm to
This is good news, but Louisiana really needs to focus on diversifying its economy. This will bring thousands of new direct operational jobs*****


***** contingent on the price of LNG, like the rest of the economy. Honestly at this point, one of the largest economic drivers not tied to oil and gas in the state at this point is the Buc-ee’s being built. The state really needs to focus on that, imo, while continuing to expand with projects like this
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
372 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:28 pm to
Port Fouchon likely to have an LNG facility announced soon
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:40 pm to
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Bucket Brigade
Rise St James
Tulane Law Center
Floodlight


Bucket Brigade is non scientific analysis of emissions. But stupid people abound.

As for Rise St. James, a now retired older biz friend was part of the ownership of a proposed methanol plant in St. James Parish. Per him, the locals wanted guaranteed plant baw jobs above $100k per year without having to pass safety requirements such as passing a 3rd grade reading comprehension exam and a drug screen.

I had a tenant in Uptown, tatted up gal 20 years ago, who was part of all the social justice stuff while at Tulane Law School. She borrowed $250k (never late on rent) and last I heard was a dog walker in NYC. Her dad was a speechwriter for Democrat politicians after retiring from the military with a career of press relations and lived in Tallahasse.
Posted by TheGooner
Baton Rouwage
Member since Jul 2016
1110 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:53 pm to
I'm a Safety Manager at the Venture Global site in Da Parish.

My guess is that the jobsite is 60% Hispanic.
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3719 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:58 pm to
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Louisiana's LNG export terminals benefit from significant tax breaks, which impact the state's revenue. According to recent reports, the state offers substantial tax exemptions to LNG operators through programs like the Industrial Tax Exemption Program (ITEP). This program allows LNG facilities to avoid paying billions in property taxes over several years.

For example, nine LNG export terminals in Louisiana are projected to avoid paying approximately $21.1 billion in property taxes between 2012 and 2040. These tax breaks are intended to incentivize industrial development but also result in reduced revenue for local governments and school districts.

While these tax breaks support the growth of the LNG industry, they also mean that Louisiana forfeits significant potential revenue from these operations.

Would you like more details on how these tax programs work or their impact on local communities?


I hate to be a wet blanket, but does the state of LA receive any benefit for being the leader in LNG exports for the US? We forfeit $812 million per year by exempting property taxes for the main LNG players. I understand that's why they are deciding to build production and export facilities here, but are we overstating the impact to our state's economy?

I listened to the presser during lunch, and they announced around 7,500 jobs during construction. Then shrinking to about 500 jobs post-construction. Does that mean LC will get an influx of families without the property tax boost for local services?

I am honestly looking to be corrected/educated, so someone please correct me. Is the sole benefit coming from 500 permanent jobs and the sales tax collected from those extra inhabitants?

My point of contention is that we are a resource rich state and are constantly broke.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29504 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:17 pm to
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I listened to the presser during lunch, and they announced around 7,500 jobs during construction. Then shrinking to about 500 jobs post-construction. Does that mean LC will get an influx of families without the property tax boost for local services? I am honestly looking to be corrected/educated, so someone please correct me. Is the sole benefit coming from 500 permanent jobs and the sales tax collected from those extra inhabitants?


If they don’t build the plant, you still get $0 in property tax. These plants are a little different in you have to be near the natural resource, but I can tell you with certainty, these projects are competitive. Companies absolutely factor incentives into where and/or if they complete these projects.

To your question, is sales tax the only from residents the only additional revenue, no. They have to have somewhere to live so they pay property tax, they pay income tax on their wages, which for a project like this is typically well over the parish average wage. And the company is still paying a shite ton of taxes. Sales tax on purchases, employment taxes, apportionable income taxes to the state, etc, etc.

Posted by NewMoneyTrash
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
1464 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 2:17 pm to
Not sure if you’re referring to actual direct staff positions for the plant, but as far as the contractors during the construction phase, most of these mega jobs are at least over 50% Hispanic. I’d guess closer to 65-70% though. Lots of labor from the Houston, and south Texas area. TWIC is also not always required during construction. Lot of people onsite without it
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