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Women and Children First

Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:45 pm
A thread in the movie forum about the sinking of the Titanic got me thinking. If you were on the Titanic at the time of the sinking, would you willingly die so that a random woman or child could live? What if there were no social consequences afterwards if you decided to save yourself?
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:48 pm to
I’d save other men before me after the women and children
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:49 pm to
This is a fascinating topic to me. I can't imagine a social construct such as chivalry being so strong that I would lay down my or my family's lives all for the sake of not being shamed.

That's wild, and it defies the strongest human nature - survival - to its core.

ETA: I'm not challenging the idea of sacrificing one's self for another. I'm specifically referencing the "women and children first" and how that must have dictated the survival or death of hundreds of people.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:52 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98198 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

"We've dressed up in our best and are prepared to go down like gentlemen. Tell my wife I played the game out straight to the end. No woman shall be left aboard this ship because Ben Guggenheim was a coward."
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10028 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

I can't imagine a social construct such as chivalry being so strong that I would lay down my or my family's lives all for the sake of not being shamed


The people saving others aren’t concerned with shame. They are concerned with saving others if they feel they have the opportunity to do so.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:55 pm
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:55 pm to
I could give my life for a pretty lady. If she’s fat, I’m getting on that life boat. Real talk.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11590 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:55 pm to
if I was going to do the gentleman thing regardless of my social standing I would require a bottle of something top shelf from the brandy room

much like Leo from Wolf of Wall Street...I am not dying sober.

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Biglego
I too agree with saving the fine women...no need to go dying for the Amy Shumer's and Rosie's of the world...those are men in my eyes and need to go down with the ship
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:56 pm to
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The people saving others aren’t concerned with shame. They are concerned with saving others if they feel they have the opportunity to do so.


Some of them, sure. However, I would imagine a sizable portion went to their graves wishing they could have gotten away with sneaking onto a boat in front of someone else.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:57 pm to
I get the children but why necessarily the women?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:57 pm to
Nope.

Its 2020.

Dont assume my gender.
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:59 pm to
The more interesting question is why no women felt the need to step aside for their husbands or even give the courtesy to offer. If I said go on the lifeboat and she didn’t even try to save me or question it I’d skip the line and walk on board
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 12:07 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:03 am to
If it's between freezing to death or getting on a boat full of crying kids and whining women then I'm going skinny dipping.
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:04 am to
Brave men (and women) go to war to save/protect/fight for the innocent...same concept.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164265 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:18 am to
In 2020 it’s shems and children first
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25529 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:37 am to
It was a different time.

When I imagine a cruise ship now, I picture pure chaos if shite got real. Trashy women looking for kids that have run amok. Life boats that are supposed to seat 8 only hold 5 because of fatasses. 9 year olds whining about not having a phone to play on. Adults whining about not having a phone to update their social media. Throw in tats and affliction shirts, and it seems complete.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:41 am to
That would be a significant improvement over the titanic’s situation
Posted by bayourougebengal
Member since Mar 2008
7193 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:41 am to
quote:

would you willingly die so that a random woman or child could live? 

Absolutely if need be
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17964 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:00 am to
quote:

Women and Children First

I don't discriminate by age or gender, I'm an equal opportunity evacuator.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:13 am to
Im all for saving the children. They deserve to live. But on the other hand, frick them women. Im getting on the boat too.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:35 am to
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If she’s fat, I’m getting on that life boat. Real talk.


If I block a fatty to let a dime get on the life boat, I have also created space next to the dime for myself to occupy

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