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Women and Children First
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:45 pm
A thread in the movie forum about the sinking of the Titanic got me thinking. If you were on the Titanic at the time of the sinking, would you willingly die so that a random woman or child could live? What if there were no social consequences afterwards if you decided to save yourself?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:48 pm to Globetrotter747
I’d save other men before me after the women and children
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:49 pm to Globetrotter747
This is a fascinating topic to me. I can't imagine a social construct such as chivalry being so strong that I would lay down my or my family's lives all for the sake of not being shamed.
That's wild, and it defies the strongest human nature - survival - to its core.
ETA: I'm not challenging the idea of sacrificing one's self for another. I'm specifically referencing the "women and children first" and how that must have dictated the survival or death of hundreds of people.
That's wild, and it defies the strongest human nature - survival - to its core.
ETA: I'm not challenging the idea of sacrificing one's self for another. I'm specifically referencing the "women and children first" and how that must have dictated the survival or death of hundreds of people.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:52 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:53 pm to Globetrotter747
quote:
"We've dressed up in our best and are prepared to go down like gentlemen. Tell my wife I played the game out straight to the end. No woman shall be left aboard this ship because Ben Guggenheim was a coward."
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:54 pm to Tuscaloosa
quote:
I can't imagine a social construct such as chivalry being so strong that I would lay down my or my family's lives all for the sake of not being shamed
The people saving others aren’t concerned with shame. They are concerned with saving others if they feel they have the opportunity to do so.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:55 pm to Globetrotter747
I could give my life for a pretty lady. If she’s fat, I’m getting on that life boat. Real talk.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:55 pm to Jim Rockford
if I was going to do the gentleman thing regardless of my social standing I would require a bottle of something top shelf from the brandy room
much like Leo from Wolf of Wall Street...I am not dying sober.
much like Leo from Wolf of Wall Street...I am not dying sober.
quote:I too agree with saving the fine women...no need to go dying for the Amy Shumer's and Rosie's of the world...those are men in my eyes and need to go down with the ship
Biglego
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:56 pm to gobuxgo5
quote:
The people saving others aren’t concerned with shame. They are concerned with saving others if they feel they have the opportunity to do so.
Some of them, sure. However, I would imagine a sizable portion went to their graves wishing they could have gotten away with sneaking onto a boat in front of someone else.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:57 pm to Globetrotter747
I get the children but why necessarily the women?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:57 pm to Globetrotter747
Nope.
Its 2020.
Dont assume my gender.
Its 2020.
Dont assume my gender.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:59 pm to Globetrotter747
The more interesting question is why no women felt the need to step aside for their husbands or even give the courtesy to offer. If I said go on the lifeboat and she didn’t even try to save me or question it I’d skip the line and walk on board
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 12:07 am
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:03 am to Globetrotter747
If it's between freezing to death or getting on a boat full of crying kids and whining women then I'm going skinny dipping.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:04 am to Globetrotter747
Brave men (and women) go to war to save/protect/fight for the innocent...same concept.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:18 am to Globetrotter747
In 2020 it’s shems and children first
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:37 am to Globetrotter747
It was a different time.
When I imagine a cruise ship now, I picture pure chaos if shite got real. Trashy women looking for kids that have run amok. Life boats that are supposed to seat 8 only hold 5 because of fatasses. 9 year olds whining about not having a phone to play on. Adults whining about not having a phone to update their social media. Throw in tats and affliction shirts, and it seems complete.
When I imagine a cruise ship now, I picture pure chaos if shite got real. Trashy women looking for kids that have run amok. Life boats that are supposed to seat 8 only hold 5 because of fatasses. 9 year olds whining about not having a phone to play on. Adults whining about not having a phone to update their social media. Throw in tats and affliction shirts, and it seems complete.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:41 am to TexasTiger08
That would be a significant improvement over the titanic’s situation
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:41 am to Globetrotter747
quote:
would you willingly die so that a random woman or child could live?
Absolutely if need be
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:00 am to Globetrotter747
quote:
Women and Children First
I don't discriminate by age or gender, I'm an equal opportunity evacuator.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:13 am to Globetrotter747
Im all for saving the children. They deserve to live. But on the other hand, frick them women. Im getting on the boat too.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 1:35 am to biglego
quote:
If she’s fat, I’m getting on that life boat. Real talk.
If I block a fatty to let a dime get on the life boat, I have also created space next to the dime for myself to occupy
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