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re: Woman Shot Dead as Mob Overran Capitol ID’ed as QAnon supporting 14-year Air Force Vet

Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:08 pm to

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So then why are people not contesting every election on those ballots and just the Presidential race? I mean, if ballots magically showed up "in the middle of the night" because they were mail-in ballots that were counted then why not all elections on those ballots?


Outside of Georgia i did not pay attention to results of other states Senate and Governor races and for Georgia that was looking at run off.

Factoring in or out undervotes were there senate, governor, or i guess other statewide races where margin of victory fit within number of votes cast in this manner for those respective elections?

I know Georgia had runoffs, but i honestly don’t know if leaders after general election were within range of 50% plus 1 to make a big deal or if 3rd place candidates were in range to fight to get in run off. Don’t know about races elsewhere at all.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122197 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:09 pm to
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She could easily kick your arse.


Not if he had a gun.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:09 pm to
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They had no idea that she wasn't armed


So ignorance is bliss?.....If you are rushing at me and I tell you to stop and you dont it's ok for me to assume you're armed and I can shoot and kill you because I didnt know if you were armed or not?

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She was attempting to illegally access an area where US Congresspeople were being held during a Capitol lockdown.


Like I said....they are trained LEO.....there were other LEO's 5; behind her.....if that nervous cop would have used the training he's been given....his actions would have been more appropriate.

Im sure there will be an investigation and we shall see what the outcome will be
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:09 pm to
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You were the equating the riots over the summer and what happened yesterday similar when you said one side had privilege and the other didn’t.





I mean....with BLM there were all kinds of barricades around the Capitol and a crowd would have NEVER even gotten close to the front door cause of the heavily armed protection in front of it.


Yesterday....that wasn't the case at all.

That's what I mean by privilege.
Posted by beauxgy
LA
Member since Feb 2007
3969 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:10 pm to
You are a sheep with a room temperature IQ.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Yesterday....that wasn't the case at all.

That's what I mean by privilege.




Posted by BluegrassBelle
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108047 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:11 pm to
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So ignorance is bliss?.....If you are rushing at me and I tell you to stop and you dont it's ok for me to assume you're armed and I can shoot and kill you because I didnt know if you were armed or not?


So you're just completely ignoring the context of the officer being in a Federal secured area where they were attempting to keep US Congresspeople safe after several people broke into the US Capitol? Cool.

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Like I said....they are trained LEO.....there were other LEO's 5; behind her.....if that nervous cop would have used the training he's been given....his actions would have been more appropriate.

Im sure there will be an investigation and we shall see what the outcome will be


Oh for frick's sake. You're a damn idiot.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:13 pm to
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I mean....with BLM there were all kinds of barricades around the Capitol and a crowd would have NEVER even gotten close to the front door cause of the heavily armed protection in front of it.


Yesterday....that wasn't the case at all.

By that point the BLM protests and riots had been happening for a while. It started in Minnesota and then Wisconsin and spreading all over the country. Many were peaceful but some turned violent. They knew they had to prepare for. As did many local governments around the country.

This was a more of sudden and isolated thing. I highly doubt they expected them to get forceful and push themselves inside.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:13 pm to
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So you're just completely ignoring the context of the officer being in a Federal secured area where they were attempting to keep US Congresspeople safe after several people broke into the US Capitol?


Anyone watching the video and saying it was a "good shoot" is a fricking idiot.

There were armed cops right behind her, she was unarmed, they shot through a door and killed her.

BUt this is where ideology clouds the views of low intellgence.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Anyone watching the video and saying it was a "good shoot" is a fricking idiot.

There were armed cops right behind her, she was unarmed, they shot through a door and killed her.

BUt this is where ideology clouds the views of low intellgence.



I've watched the videos.

It was a good shoot. I don't care if you think that makes me a idiot or not.

I don't expect a cop on the other side of the doors whose windows are being busted out to see the LEOs behind her. And to not think her intentions weren't the best when she continued to advance into that secured area despite requests by the police to not proceed.

Pretty simple, don't want to get shot don't illegally enter a Federal building that's on lockdown. This is literally the epitome of play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:16 pm to
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Anyone watching the video and saying it wasn't a "good shoot" is a fricking idiot.

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41114 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:17 pm to
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they shot through a door and killed her.


Lie
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:19 pm to
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they shot through a door and killed her


Nope.

She was climbing through a busted out window. Advancing into a secured area.

Maybe don't let your ideology cloud your views there, Roger.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:19 pm to
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BUt this is where ideology clouds the views of low intellgence.


Roger,

The left will love this because they killed a domestic enemy. Quit trying to reason with them. Seriously. As a former prog, I already know what the response will be from these people. They hate you.

My question to you and other rational folks: was this woman part of the group that was led into the building by the police and cameramen?
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
25544 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:19 pm to
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I mean....with BLM there were all kinds of barricades around the Capitol and a crowd would have NEVER even gotten close to the front door cause of the heavily armed protection in front of it.


BLM / ANTIFA protests have a history of violence and destroying things, setting buildings ablaze. That doesn't mean Trump supporters don't have a history, but one is clearly different than the other. You don't think at all that recent history of BLM protests factored into the security measures taken for that protest? It seems reasonable to assume that they were preparing for much worse for the BLM protests due to their history vs a Trump protest.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:20 pm to
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The left will love this because they killed a domestic enemy.


The lefts entire future depends on bad actors they can demonize. This is their super bowl.

The girl deserved to be arrested, she did not deserve to die.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86228 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:21 pm to
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The left will love this because they killed a domestic enemy. Quit trying to reason with them. Seriously. As a former prog, I already know what the response will be from these people. They hate you.

My question to you and other rational folks: was this woman part of the group that was led into the building by the police and cameramen?


jesus christ

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21129 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:21 pm to
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My question to you and other rational folks: was this woman part of the group that was led into the building by the police and cameramen?

Does it matter? None of that greenlights crawling through a broken window into a secured area.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:21 pm to
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By that point the BLM protests and riots had been happening for a while. It started in Minnesota and then Wisconsin and spreading all over the country. Many were peaceful but some turned violent. They knew they had to prepare for. As did many local governments around the country.

This was a more of sudden and isolated thing. I highly doubt they expected them to get forceful and push themselves inside.



Totally fair point. And I have never promoted or thought violent protesting from anyone is ok. Hopefully some on this board can comprehend that just because I didn't vote for Trump...I'm still capable of thinking violence is horrific in any fashion from any group.


My only point is....if that was an unexpected crowd of a majority of non-white people that did that yesterday and stormed the Capitol(which again...is MUCH different than looting a Target or taking over a police station..which all are horrible...you are committing an act of insurrection when you are forcing your way into the Capitol like that...no matter what group you represent) the security response would have been much different.

I mean...they always have armed protection. Like someone else mentioned...if a group of Muslims did that...I would imagine lots of shooting before they were able to even get inside.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27939 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:24 pm to
She may have been butt frickingly, batshit crazy, but she still didn't deserve to die..

Let's be honest though... she DID put herself in harm's way, participating in a fricked up from the beginning armed insurrection against the government of the United States, but I still hate to see someone killed over this insanity that has seized our country
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