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re: Woman missing since 1983 found in car pulled from Illinois river
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:37 pm to 777Tiger
Posted on 3/28/25 at 4:37 pm to 777Tiger
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the Cajun Navy will somehow take credit for this, or at least appear in front of a camera and mic to comment
better than some podcast with unemployed people trying to cold case this whole story
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Posted on 3/28/25 at 5:11 pm to Rosenblatt91
The car was found near a boat launch that for 42 years remained in deep enough water to be undetected. Most boat launches that I have been to are off the main road. Either in a recreational area or off a side road. I think what he meant by it raises more questions is that it brings into question whether there was foul play. Possibly intentionally steered into the river at that particular place to make her and the car disappear. It would have taken someone with knowledge of the characteristics of that launch to know that it would be an ideal place to make her and the car go undetected for a while. In this case, 42 years.
Or, the other question of did she just make a wrong turn and drive down the ramp into the river.
Or, the other question of did she just make a wrong turn and drive down the ramp into the river.
Posted on 3/28/25 at 5:13 pm to Water
How many miles on the celica?
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:05 pm to Water
I live a few miles down the Fox River from where this is. The cold case was solved due to a podcast. I just downloaded it and plan to give it a listen. Podcast is ‘Somebody knows something’. By the Elgin PD
Posted on 3/28/25 at 6:17 pm to Water
A soldier was declared AWOL from Ft Polk many moons ago - at least 50 years.
After being missing for at least 20 years at the time he was found submerged in a car about halfway between Leesville and Alexandria.
Details are fuzzy in my memory - but those numbers are in the ball park.
After being missing for at least 20 years at the time he was found submerged in a car about halfway between Leesville and Alexandria.
Details are fuzzy in my memory - but those numbers are in the ball park.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 9:39 am to La Place Mike
I drove past there recently. Its a manicured place now. The old metal frame building that was close by is gone and the pond is no longer there.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 9:54 am to Water
quote:I remember reading in the mid ‘80s about a missing guy who was found dead in a submerged vehicle after around 15 years in an agricultural reservoir (not Ross Barnett) in Central Mississippi, a solved cold case thing from like 1970.
It makes me wonder about all the water around Louisiana and what’s hiding below the surface.
They drained the reservoir and discovered the vehicle & him, if memory serves me. I remember that I read it in the Jackson MS ClarionAlleger, Gannett rag.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:40 am to jeffsdad
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I drove past there recently. Its a manicured place now. The old metal frame building that was close by is gone and the pond is no longer there
Yeah, but I bet the car is still there. Someone has covered their tracks.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 10:46 am to TrueTiger
My first car was a 6 year old 1980 Celica coupe. Great car
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:00 am to TygerLyfe
Same thing happened in Auburn a few years ago. A baw worked at a bar in 1976. Had a few drinks before he left work late one night and was never seen again. Police investigated for years and even arrested people they thought responsible.
A few years ago they found his car in a creek about 10 feet off a road. It had been there since 1976 and his bones were in the driver's seat. He had simply ran off the road.
A few years ago they found his car in a creek about 10 feet off a road. It had been there since 1976 and his bones were in the driver's seat. He had simply ran off the road.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 11:45 am to TrueTiger
Sporty, yet still practical. A good way to commute in style. She had a good head on her shoulders.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 12:14 pm to Water
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Search teams with a nonprofit group called the Chaos Divers found the car
These guys do stuff like this all the time.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 1:10 pm to Water
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This post was edited on 3/29/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 3/29/25 at 1:16 pm to Athis
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The Celica was a good all around choice for a young person starting out
You could probably change the oil in that motor and it would still run
Posted on 3/29/25 at 1:45 pm to La Place Mike
I might go back sometime and walk the place. Its been over 40 years but I think I can get back to the original area.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 2:39 pm to jeffsdad
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I might go back sometime and walk the place. Its been over 40 years but I think I can get back to the original area.
Bring a metal detector!
Posted on 3/29/25 at 2:42 pm to tgrfan87
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I live a few miles down the Fox River from where this is. The cold case was solved due to a podcast. I just downloaded it and plan to give it a listen. Podcast is ‘Somebody knows something’. By the Elgin PD
Right, not just 'some podcast', this was the Elgin PD, trying to get some attention to a cold case. I'm in a SW suburb of Chicago, so a fair amount of news coverage. But I still had not heard exactly what led them to that spot. I heard about the dive club, but did they initially find it, or help in the rescue afterwords?
I'll try to do some more searching, but mostly the same reports over and over again.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 3:00 pm to MidWestGuy
OK, a lot more info here (USA Today):
LINK /
Then, the intrigue:
The boyfriend died in 2015, but he was questioned at the time since it was known she was missing, so probably not involved?
LINK /
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Elgin Police Chief Ana Lalley said Wednesday that the Elgin Fire Department received a tip about the vehicle in 2022. The fire department's dive team "prematurely" concluded that it was a smaller vehicle in the lake, and the police weren't notified.
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“Yesterday’s search of the Fox River was conducted because as a re-examination of the case progressed, the theories of what happened to Karen included that Karen’s vehicle could potentially be in the Fox River,” police said.
Authorities contacted a nonprofit called Chaos Divers to help with the search and look into the theory. Chaos Divers used sonar technology and found multiple sites in the Fox River that they could hone in on, police said.
Then, the intrigue:
quote:
She lived alone, played the piano, and also played saxophone. She had just called off her engagement to her boyfriend a few weeks before she went missing and was estranged from some of her family members (including her father and stepmother).
The day she went missing, she worked and then went to a bar called Bentley’s in Carpentersville. She was celebrating with at least 15 coworkers because they’d completed a work project, the podcast hosts said. ... Between 9 p.m. and 9:30 p.m., Schepers used a pay phone to call her boyfriend. He answered the call and spoke to her, the hosts said. Another coworker recalled seeing Schepers as she talked on the phone that night. “I couldn’t hear the words but I could hear her gestures, and she was frustrated,” the coworker said. “She kind of let everyone at the table know that she had just tried to call (him) and he couldn’t come. She was not happy about that.”
The boyfriend died in 2015, but he was questioned at the time since it was known she was missing, so probably not involved?
Posted on 3/29/25 at 3:01 pm to Water
I just bought a Crestliner 16.5 jet boat last year outfitted with lowrance and I scope so when I retire when fishing becomes dull I can scan for things.
I haven’t had it out much due to health reasons and trying to get my business dealings sorted out but I would like to get in on this. PADI certified open water diver since 85 in Okinawa.
This is pretty amazing stuff!
Glad that family finally got closer and God Bless them.
I haven’t had it out much due to health reasons and trying to get my business dealings sorted out but I would like to get in on this. PADI certified open water diver since 85 in Okinawa.
This is pretty amazing stuff!
Glad that family finally got closer and God Bless them.
Posted on 3/29/25 at 3:08 pm to MidWestGuy
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Elgin Police Chief Ana Lalley said Wednesday that the Elgin Fire Department received a tip about the vehicle in 2022. The fire department's dive team "prematurely" concluded that it was a smaller vehicle in the lake, and the police weren't notified.
They don't pull vehicles out of rivers when they are found?
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