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re: Woman given $10,000 bond on suspended lic. gives birth in jail cell floor

Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:05 am to
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:05 am to
did her water just not break or something?
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:12 am to
Your water doesn't always break. Sometimes you can be in labor and pretty far dilated without ruptured water. The doctor will often break it for you when you're in active labor. Mine broke on its own but I never had contractions (that I felt) or dilation, hence why I ended up with a csection.

ETA: despite what else is missing from this story, I think it's terrible they didn't take her seriously. Someone should lose their job over this...likely the nurse.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 6:14 am
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3147 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:24 am to
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despite what else is missing from this story, I think it's terrible they didn't take her seriously. Someone should lose their job over this...likely the nurse.


I can only hope one day you aren't fire "despite what else is missing from the story." It's not just possible, but likely that this woman has:
1. Been to that same jail mutiple times
2. Faked a need for medical attention before.

Collect facts, then make decisions. Not the opposite.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52629 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:53 am to
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She is about to bankrupt that county
For what, exactly? Is the baby unhealthy as a result? Is there any harm to the mother? Or you just want someone to pay for her stupidity?
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 6:55 am to
You really think that money will still be around by the time he hits that age?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:01 am to
everyone deserves some blame but she shouldn't have been driving with a suspended license
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:19 am to
The last thing you should mess around with and not take seriously is a full term pregnant woman claiming to be in labor. ESPECIALLY when she had to have an emergency section the first time. VBACS are dangerous and many doctors won't even allow for them. I doubt the place she needed to be having one was an effing jail cell floor. So despite her criminality, I don't think I'm going to put her punishment over the health and safety of an innocent child. But I forgot, this is the OT. Everyone here is perfect and all knowing.
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 7:27 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:26 am to
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likely that this woman has:

Been to that same jail mutiple times

I think that's more likely than


quote:

Faked a need for medical attention before.


Apparently this county jail and this sheriff has had multiple people die behind bars due to medical neglect. One was a woman who died of sepsis and the other was a heroin addict who died of withdrawal. The sheriff has come out since this incident and said he did nothing wrong even though hours went by between times this woman said she needed medical assistance AND that the hospital is all of three minutes away. No matter he declined to give medical care until the last possible moment.

I put at least some blame on the sheriff as it's his duty to keep his prisoners safe and healthy- something he failed multiple times before and again here.

That doesn't excuse the young lady for driving on a suspended license, however. Trashy going to trash.

Like I said before lots of blame to go around here.

Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:29 am to
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Is the baby unhealthy as a result?


Baby was born earlier than it should have been. That right there could have resulted in serious problems.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:31 am to
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For what, exactly? Is the baby unhealthy as a result? Is there any harm to the mother? Or you just want someone to pay for her stupidity?


I can't imagine that this level of medical care is standard. It was reckless and dangerous.

She easily could have died and the baby could have easily died here too, being born premature on a dirty jailhouse floor without a NICU.

I get the sense you would have blamed the mother anyway if the baby had died. Do you think that being behind bars, that one should be responsible for the substandard medical care they receive?
Posted by tigerbandpiccolo
Member since Oct 2005
49482 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:32 am to
And that she had a VBAC on a jail floor. That is extremely risky for both mom and baby. There were a myriad of things that could have gone wrong, but the OT doesn't care. Cause she shouldn't have been driving on a suspended license, so that's reason enough to not care about the health and safety of that innocent baby who didn't ask to be born to that mother.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:32 am to
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This kid has 0 chance in life


He was born in jail, things can only get better from here.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
69235 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:35 am to
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she had a rosary hanging from her rearview mirror. The officer said the cross and beads were an obstruction of view


Nice catch, officer Muhammed Jahadin. War on Christmas
This post was edited on 2/11/17 at 7:36 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74567 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:40 am to
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The story began a few days earlier in Warren. Preston was pulled over because she had a rosary hanging from her rearview mirror. The officer said the cross and beads were an obstruction of view


When this cop had her pulled over on the side of the road, I wonder how many people zoomed on by with their nose in their fricking cell phone?

But thank the Virgin Mary herself this brave officer served and protected us all by ridding the roads of a rosary hanging from a rear view mirror.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74567 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:44 am to
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The sheriff did allow her medical treatment, and the nurse thought she wasn't in labor. Sounds like the nurse is primarily to blame.


Who does the nurse work for? And who is resposible for the health and well being ofcthr prisoners in the jail? The answer to those two questions will tell you who will be held resposible in any lawsuit.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:46 am to
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She may have 37 others charges against her that she didn't mention. She made it sound like she only had the one charge and it was the first time.

Wait a week or two and see what shakes out.

P.S. Watch Judge Judy to see what I am talking abou


Funny you mention that

Sheriff stands by decisions to withold medical care

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Macomb County Sheriff Anthony Wickersham is stepping forward to address concerns over what led to a woman being forced to give birth on a dirty floor mat inside the Macomb County Jail.

Wickersham is standing by his staff in the face of a troubling video that shows Jessica Preston being sent back to her jail cell three times by medical staff members despite telling them she was having her baby.

Preston's incident is the latest in a string of medical incidents involving Macomb County Jail inmates asking for medical help and not receiving it.


quote:

Jennifer Meyers died when a virus turned into sepsis in July 2013. She was serving a 30-day sentence for failure to pay child support.

In June 2014, David Stojcevski died at the end of a brutal 17-day drug withdrawal. His 30-day sentence was for failure to pay traffic tickets.

Preston was sent to jail while she was eight months pregnant and forced to give birth on the floor of her cell.

Wickersham said he is 100 percent confident that the medical staff acted accordingly, admitting it would have been a better situation if Preston had been at the hospital for the delivery. But he said Elijha came too fast, even though on camera, Preston is seen going to medical staff members three times over a seven-hour period.

"Two (employees) were working that day," Wickersham said. "They were on the phone with the doctor. The information at that time, the baby started to come, they took her off the cot, which is close to the wall, put her on the floor on a mattress and the baby was delivered."

"But we both know that she was there in the morning at 7, again at 11:30, again at 1 p.m.," Local 4 Defender Kevin Dietz said. "She had blood on her leg, and still the baby wasn't born until 2:45. The hospital is, what, two, three minutes away?"

"It's about three minutes away," Wickersham said. "I don't have the medical records. The mother has them. I think that in all fairness the medical records should be brought out and let the people see what the medical staff did each time she was brought down.

"Could we have more medical staff? Should we have a full-time doctor on staff 24 hours a day? Obviously, that is going to cost taxpayers more money to increase that kind of contract."

"Have you requested that?" Dietz asked.

"We put it out to contract this," Wickersham said. "We had one bid. This is the contract. This is the company. It's within our budget. We have to look at that next time up."

The bottom line is that if residents want inmates to have better treatment in the Macomb County Jail, taxpayers need to be prepared to pay for it.


I just get the general feeling that the taxpayers will be paying for it after this.
Posted by nerd guy
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:47 am to
Wonder what the baby's dad thought of all of this?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 7:49 am to
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Wonder what the baby's dad thought of all of this?


I have no idea, although there's literally nothing he could do to change any of what happened, short of spotting her $10,000.
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 2/11/17 at 8:15 am to
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Well the bright side is that she doesn't have to worry about paying for a hospital bill.

Right. She's totally a paying customer
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/11/17 at 8:25 am to
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Who do you blame the most?


In order:

1. The lady for breaking the law.
2. The judge for being an idiot
3. The medical staff
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