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re: Woman charged with murder after delivering stillborn baby with meth in its system - update

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Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
5008 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:36 am to
I didn’t know a viable tissue mass could be murdered. If this isn’t the case then we can say abortion is legalized murder?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37579 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:39 am to
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So if a woman gets an abortion its not murder because she meant to kill her baby. This woman is a murderer because she didn't mean to kill her baby?


Got damn! This is what you call a knockout
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37579 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:42 am to
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Detective Sgt. Justin Vallin of the Hanford Police Department said in an interview with CNN affiliate KGPE that three of Becker's previous children were born with meth in their systems.


And I bet the US taxpayers are paying for all of them.

If you have a child while on welfare you should be forced to have an IUD implanted (at taxpayers expense) and can only have it removed when you are off of welfare.

Men who father children while on wed are should have vasectomies (at tax payers expense) until they are off of welfare.

It can be like our one child policy
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:00 am to
I guess you purposely decided not to comment on this part of your beloved "medical Abortion."
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Actually, when it comes to murdering people, what she did is probably more humane than the murder techniques the abortion psychopaths use. I mean, would you rather be so high you don’t know you are dying, or have your arms, legs, torso cut off in a tortuous midevil manner.
Posted by cajungoalie
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
521 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:14 am to
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So if a woman gets an abortion its not murder because she meant to kill her baby. This woman is a murderer because she didn't mean to kill her baby?


THIS!!! F%$#ING THIS!
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:15 am to
Abortion is feticide but it's legal, trackable, and accountable.

People also don't get a pass when they kill a fetus in a car wreck.

Just like murder is homicide but an executioner isn't a murderer, just carrying out sanctioned homicide.

Don't want abortion? Make the world better.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:22 am to
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So if a woman gets an abortion its not murder because she meant to kill her baby. This woman is a murderer because she didn't mean to kill her baby?


Do we know what trimester this baby was in?

Posted by Ice cream
Member since Nov 2019
50 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:38 am to
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And I think you mean "legal"? Some fantastic insight by you in this thread.
Yes that was a typo. I meant legal. And a lot of you need to get over abortion being legal.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83628 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:40 am to
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And a lot of you need to get over abortion being legal.


Your insecurity in your beliefs are showing.

Posted by Ice cream
Member since Nov 2019
50 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:41 am to
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Abortion is feticide but it's legal, trackable, and accountable. People also don't get a pass when they kill a fetus in a car wreck. Just like murder is homicide but an executioner isn't a murderer, just carrying out sanctioned homicide. Don't want abortion? Make the world better.

This
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7834 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:41 am to
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Same outcome though, right?



This is stupid
Posted by Ice cream
Member since Nov 2019
50 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:47 am to
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I didn’t know a viable tissue mass could be murdered. If this isn’t the case then we can say abortion is legalized murder?
You could say that or anything you want. It’s not going to make it illegal
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9049 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:48 am to
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This is stupid


Not really.

Why is what the woman did wrong?

Because she killed her baby?

Or because she didn't kill her baby "the right way?"

If the latter, why does that necessitate a murder charge? Seems like she should be charged with practicing medicine without a license, if anything.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 9:51 am
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16543 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:54 am to
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She did not have a medical abortion. Plain and simple. Again, medical abortion is legal


Do you not know what "functionally" means?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56473 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:55 am to
This isn’t consistent w other views on babies.
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:56 am to
If that is the case, every woman who aborts a child should be charged with murder as well.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31533 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:56 am to
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Abortion is legal. Get over it. 


You could've been a self-loathing Jew in Nazi Germany. Would've fit right in.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7834 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 9:59 am to
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Why is what the woman did wrong?



By this logic I should be able to distribute opiods. A Dr. can do it, why can't I? Same outcome right?

Oh yeah, because one is a medical professional and does it in a sterile environment, while the other was a drug addict injecting illegal drugs into herself with dirty needles.

Say what you want about abortion, but there is a difference between this and getting a medical abortion by a licensed physician. If you say otherwise, you are just letting emotions get the best of you.

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Seems like she should be charged with practicing medicine without a license, if anything.


So drug dealers should be charged with the same? They are just unlicensed physicians distributing controlled substances.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 10:01 am
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:01 am to
Should of went to New York/Virginia, and just let a doctor kill it. Would of been ok, none of the Residents would of minded.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9049 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:02 am to
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Oh yeah, because one is a medical professional and does it in a sterile environment, while the other was a drug addict injecting illegal drugs into herself with dirty needles.

Say what you want about abortion, but there is a difference between this and getting a medical abortion by a licensed physician. If you say otherwise, you are just letting emotions get the best of you.




Oh my goodness, you're right.

What she did was totally reckless. By conducting a functional abortion on herself without proper training and instruments, she ran the risk of :gasp: killing the child.

Or killing herself.

Either way, why do you care?

And you didn't answer my question. Was the woman wrong because she killed her child, or because she didn't kill her child the way that our civilized and polite society prefer that she kill the child?
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 10:06 am
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