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re: Woman charged with murder after delivering stillborn baby with meth in its system - update
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:48 pm to Ice cream
Posted on 11/7/19 at 10:48 pm to Ice cream
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Yes that was a typo. I meant legal. And a lot of you need to get over abortion being legal.
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You could say that or anything you want. It’s not going to make it illegal
Honest question, are your morals purely based on legality?
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Posted on 11/7/19 at 11:12 pm to rintintin
Yeah, I just don’t see why doing an act accidentally is any worse than doing that same act intentionally. Normally it’s the other way around. It’s the same act with the same result for the fetus.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:02 am to rintintin
Abortion is a slippery slope on which those who attempt to justify it can only do so by ultimately tossing out the conviction of human life being precious and the morality of premeditated, cold-blooded murder being wrong.
Also, for those standing on the soapbox of legality making murder right and moral, consider this:
A). In Rome it was legal to kill Christians by putting them in the colosseum and having animals rip them to shreds while the crowd cheered.
B). In Germany it was legal to starve Jews in concentration camps, then take the ones who survived long enough, strip them, and put them in gas chambers.
C). In Iran it is legal to drag a woman to the middle of the town square, stake her on a chain like a dog, and stone her to death slowly just for removing her hijab in public or for really ANY perceived wrong she’s done from her husbands perspective.
Legality does not equal morality or justification for wrong. Legality is man-made and subject to existing on wicked intent. This is why we have God-given (the REAL one-not “allah”) principles for morality and conduct. Rules from a higher power than ourselves that provide a check-and-balance against legality that is created by wicked people with wicked intentions and zero morality. People who value power and control to rule and fuel their pride and lust over right and wrong.
Also, for those standing on the soapbox of legality making murder right and moral, consider this:
A). In Rome it was legal to kill Christians by putting them in the colosseum and having animals rip them to shreds while the crowd cheered.
B). In Germany it was legal to starve Jews in concentration camps, then take the ones who survived long enough, strip them, and put them in gas chambers.
C). In Iran it is legal to drag a woman to the middle of the town square, stake her on a chain like a dog, and stone her to death slowly just for removing her hijab in public or for really ANY perceived wrong she’s done from her husbands perspective.
Legality does not equal morality or justification for wrong. Legality is man-made and subject to existing on wicked intent. This is why we have God-given (the REAL one-not “allah”) principles for morality and conduct. Rules from a higher power than ourselves that provide a check-and-balance against legality that is created by wicked people with wicked intentions and zero morality. People who value power and control to rule and fuel their pride and lust over right and wrong.
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 3:08 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:09 am to biglego
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Babylon Bee
Rollseyes
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:20 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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the REAL one-not “allah
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:22 am to LSU Coyote
Roll your eyes bitch because you cannot refute their point
This is illegal because it ruins the baby parts for harvesting. This bitch pissed away thousands of dollars
This is illegal because it ruins the baby parts for harvesting. This bitch pissed away thousands of dollars
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:29 am to gthog61
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Roll your eyes bitch because you cannot refute their point
You don't sound like an adult.
I'm rolling eye at the Babylon Bee. Not the case. Goofball
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Listen to you, lol
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This is illegal because it ruins the baby parts for harvesting. This bitch pissed away thousands of dollars
I'm sorry. I barely read the 2nd part.
This is good. You are my ppl. Much love.
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 3:31 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:33 am to crap4brain
So let me get this straight for those arguing for legal abortion in this thread: if this woman had simply killed her unborn child the "right way" you wouldn't have regarded it as murder, but because her baby was a stillborn due to being intoxicated with meth, she's guilty of second degree murder?
Do you not understand the illogical nature of this? Is an unborn child a human being with rights or something else?
Do you not understand the illogical nature of this? Is an unborn child a human being with rights or something else?
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:48 am to EarlyCuyler3
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wouldn't know what to do to this woman. I don't know what's fair for her. I don't think throwing her in prison is really going to solve anything here. It's just a shitty situation top to bottom.
it is rare I think insanity is a legit legal defense.
but in her case, I think an intensive 180 day inpatient hospital stay at a drug rehab place (such as brentwood in shreveport) would be justified, followed by many years of half-way house style living
problem is who foots the bill, but then again, who foots the court case bill?
Posted on 11/8/19 at 3:53 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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A). In Rome it was legal to kill Christians by putting them in the colosseum and having animals rip them to shreds while the crowd cheered.
B). In Germany it was legal to starve Jews in concentration camps, then take the ones who survived long enough, strip them, and put them in gas chambers.
C). In Iran it is legal to drag a woman to the middle of the town square, stake her on a chain like a dog, and stone her to death slowly just for removing her hijab in public or for really ANY perceived wrong she’s done from her husbands perspective.
do you mind if I use this argument in real life?
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:09 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
Perfect layout sumtime. See, unlike all those former legally murdered people you mentioned, no babies can escape to relate the horror of what an abortion is 10, 20, 30 or 40 years later.
And much like no one returns from the dead to tell you about a possible afterlife, the living can't know what a fetus feels as its being ripped to pieces in a womb, or outside the womb for that matter. I guess you could wire up its brain and look for signals of intense pain during the procedure.
The thinking of supporters of abortion, make it clear to me how a group of people, like the nazis and others before them, can systematically kill millions of humans in broad daylight, and not feel any guilt or shame, because after all, its legal, right.
And much like no one returns from the dead to tell you about a possible afterlife, the living can't know what a fetus feels as its being ripped to pieces in a womb, or outside the womb for that matter. I guess you could wire up its brain and look for signals of intense pain during the procedure.
The thinking of supporters of abortion, make it clear to me how a group of people, like the nazis and others before them, can systematically kill millions of humans in broad daylight, and not feel any guilt or shame, because after all, its legal, right.
This post was edited on 11/8/19 at 4:11 am
Posted on 11/8/19 at 4:29 am to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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This is why we have God-given (the REAL one-not “allah”) principles for morality and conduct.
The one from the old testament supported pretty similar things.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:20 am to LSU Coyote
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Babylon Bee
Rollseyes
The funny thing is, the Bee’s satirical article was the exact same argument that some in this thread were using. How embarrassing that must be.
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:28 am to crap4brain
How does this happen in our planned parenthood world?
Posted on 11/8/19 at 5:31 am to ZappBrannigan
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People also don't get a pass when they kill a fetus in a car wreck.
Wut?
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