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re: Will Smith (NFL) shot dead in NOLA

Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:47 am to
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:47 am to
First degree murder charges coming, for sure. What a horrible situation.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:52 am to
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Except his wife was shot too.



I don't agree with Lester Earl's theory, but if you're at the driver's side window shooting, the rounds will a) not be completely accurate, and b) probably go through Will Smith unless he had hollow points.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18389 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:56 am to
Shouldn't he also be charged with felony assault or batter as well for shooting the wife? As well as wreck less endangerment
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23302 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:56 am to
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That dude looks like he has 100lbs and is 3" taller than WS. He doesn't get to be scared in that situation.


This whole incident is ridiculous and just another incident painting NO in a horrible light.









Regardless of if Smith had a gun or not, the shooter got out of his vehicle and approached Smiths vehicle. That removes self defense. He is a murderer.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2924 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:56 am to
Is the accussed possibly the same Cardell Hayes that settled $4m lawsuit for NOPD shooting his father? LINK
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120221 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:57 am to
Whelp that'd explain the Hummer
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18389 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:58 am to
quote:

I don't agree with Lester Earl's theory, but if you're at the driver's side window shooting, the rounds will a) not be completely accurate, and b) probably go through Will Smith unless he had hollow points.


If he's going with self defense using another human being as collateral damage while a)he was outside the vehicle b) the victims were inside the vehicle would be pretty hard to prove imo
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20483 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:59 am to
quote:

that is a quick 2nd degree charge in what is a high profile murder.


You obviously don't understand the qualifications to make it a 1st degree, 2nd degree, etc.

Read this...

From said link:

A. First degree murder is the killing of a human being:

(1) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm and is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated escape, aggravated arson, aggravated or first degree rape, forcible or second degree rape, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, assault by drive-by shooting, first degree robbery, second degree robbery, simple robbery, terrorism, cruelty to juveniles, or second degree cruelty to juveniles.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:00 am to
quote:

If he's going with self defense using another human being as collateral damage while a)he was outside the vehicle b) the victims were inside the vehicle would be pretty hard to prove imo



Oh I don't disagree. I'm just pointing out that in high stress situations, most people are not exactly ace shots.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:05 am to
Attempted murder

I wonder what his buddy has to say about it
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:08 am
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2924 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:06 am to
Google image search result for the accused's name and myspace. Same dude?
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:12 am to
quote:

§30.1. Second degree murder
A. Second degree murder is the killing of a human being:
(1) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm; or
(2) When the offender is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated or first degree rape, forcible or second degree rape, aggravated arson, aggravated burglary, aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated escape, assault by drive-by shooting, armed robbery, first degree robbery, second degree robbery, simple robbery, cruelty to juveniles, second degree cruelty to juveniles, or terrorism, even though he has no intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm.
(3) When the offender unlawfully distributes or dispenses a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I through V of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law, or any combination thereof, which is the direct cause of the death of the recipient who ingested or consumed the controlled dangerous substance.
(4) When the offender unlawfully distributes or dispenses a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I through V of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law, or any combination thereof, to another who subsequently distributes or dispenses such controlled dangerous substance which is the direct cause of the death of the person who ingested or consumed the controlled dangerous substance.
B. Whoever commits the crime of second degree murder shall be punished by life imprisonment at hard labor without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:12 am to
You should change your sig quote to the following, and use that image.

"When the indigent find that they can litigate themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic"

OleWar
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15578 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:12 am to
Looks a lot like him. Yeah
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:13 am to
Same dude, he owned a towing company and a car lot as well
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19125 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:13 am to
He looks like a fat chick
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:27 am to
Don't think I responded to you, thought I responded to Breesus... If so my bad
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
127713 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:27 am to
So Pierre Thomas was in the back seat?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:28 am to
Apparently... they have pictures of him at the scene
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66734 posts
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:28 am to
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Dude from all accounts had no priors and you have no idea what he did with his money. You are basing it off a few pictures and your own blind hate.


Hayes 100% had priors. Cocaine among others. He's on parole. I know his parole officer.

That's all I'll say in the matter though.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 10:30 am
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