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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:27 pm to reddman
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:27 pm to reddman
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Is this 100% fact?
Not to my knowledge, but I imagine their will be evidence to suggest or prove it because the prosecution brought it up in their opening.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:28 pm to tgrbaitn08
I doubt they even tested Smith for GSR. Fuller may be bringing this up to raise reasonable doubt...
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:28 pm to tgrbaitn08
CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock 2m2 minutes ago
"I know the truth. That's why I am here." That's a good sign the witness is lying. Don't need to enhance it
John Fuller: That night, did you say, 'no, don't do it? Don't do it?' Racquel Smith says no -- what would she tell him not to do?
CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock 33s33 seconds ago
Judge Buras just dressed the prosecution down for the first time. "Learn how to make an objection."
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 29s30 seconds ago
Racquel Smith: I don't know why he shot me. John Fuller: We'll talk about that later. ADA Napoli: she's on the stand. Ask her now. (1/2)
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 52s52 seconds ago
At FQ Fest, Smith saw a sign prohibiting guns. "I don't know where he put the gun," R. Smith says. Only that he opened driver's side door.
"I know the truth. That's why I am here." That's a good sign the witness is lying. Don't need to enhance it
John Fuller: That night, did you say, 'no, don't do it? Don't do it?' Racquel Smith says no -- what would she tell him not to do?
CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock 33s33 seconds ago
Judge Buras just dressed the prosecution down for the first time. "Learn how to make an objection."
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 29s30 seconds ago
Racquel Smith: I don't know why he shot me. John Fuller: We'll talk about that later. ADA Napoli: she's on the stand. Ask her now. (1/2)
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 52s52 seconds ago
At FQ Fest, Smith saw a sign prohibiting guns. "I don't know where he put the gun," R. Smith says. Only that he opened driver's side door.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:29 pm to TigerFred
His gun was found between the driver seat and the console. Are you suggesting it was planted there?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:29 pm to diat150
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The fact that the first shot entered from the left is problematic for Hayes.
why?
because it would be an awkward way to be reaching into the car
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:29 pm to diat150
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quote:
The fact that the first shot entered from the left is problematic for Hayes.
why?
That may be the most damming part of the prosecutions opening statement. It would mean that Smith wasn't reaching into his car if that was the first shot. Smith would have had to have his back to the car.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:29 pm to diat150
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why?
Much harder to make the case that Smith was engaging in an overt act of retrieving a weapon that he intended to use to shoot hayes.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:29 pm to ihometiger
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CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock 33s33 seconds ago
Judge Buras just dressed the prosecution down for the first time. "Learn how to make an objection."
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:31 pm to TigerBait1127
Not if he was sitting down in the drivers seat and reaching towards the glove box.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:32 pm to tgrbaitn08
Not suggesting anything.
It is possible that the gun was put there after the shooting though.
I keep going back to the vehicle not being searched at the scene and the evidence not being collected until Monday the vehicle was impounded and waited on a warrant.
Probable cause should have been enough for the detectives on scene to search the vehicle for a gun when the shooter was saying that there was a gun.
It is possible that the gun was put there after the shooting though.
I keep going back to the vehicle not being searched at the scene and the evidence not being collected until Monday the vehicle was impounded and waited on a warrant.
Probable cause should have been enough for the detectives on scene to search the vehicle for a gun when the shooter was saying that there was a gun.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:32 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 2m2 minutes ago John Fuller asks Racquel Smith if Will Smith had fired his gun at the range that day, to best of her knowledge. She says, 'No.'
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:32 pm to JohnnyKilroy
he is facing hayes with his wife inbetween, he turns to his right to go back to his vehicle and gets shot in his left side. we know that the altercation had moved back closer to smiths car by that time due to casings
we would have to see the bullet trajectory to know for sure.
we would have to see the bullet trajectory to know for sure.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:32 pm to tgrbaitn08
Watch this video again and cover up Smith's vehicle with your hand. There is no clear evidence that Smith hit Hayes. Hayes' vehicle does not change speed or jolt forward. It just appears that way due to Smith slamming on his brakes
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:33 pm to TigerFred
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 21s21 seconds ago
Fuller: Did you husband have a temper.
R. Smith: Depends on what you call a temper. Everyone gets upset.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 18s19 seconds ago
John Fuller: did your husband have what you consider a temper? Racquel Smith: do you have a temper? Fuller: I ask the questions. (more)
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 3s3 seconds ago
(cont'd) Fuller: did your husband have a temper? Racquel Smith: No.
Fuller: Did you husband have a temper.
R. Smith: Depends on what you call a temper. Everyone gets upset.
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 18s19 seconds ago
John Fuller: did your husband have what you consider a temper? Racquel Smith: do you have a temper? Fuller: I ask the questions. (more)
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 3s3 seconds ago
(cont'd) Fuller: did your husband have a temper? Racquel Smith: No.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:34 pm to ForeverLSU02
Considering his wife is now testifying that after the second accident she thought they were being attacked. It sure sounds like that at least she new that Will hit Hayes.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:34 pm to ForeverLSU02
Lots of times if I think someone may rear end me, I get off the brake and creep up a bit more to help...
But in fairness I'm not looking for insurance checks
But in fairness I'm not looking for insurance checks
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:35 pm to ForeverLSU02
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Watch this video again and cover up Smith's vehicle with your hand. There is no clear evidence that Smith hit Hayes. Hayes' vehicle does not change speed or jolt forward. It just appears that way due to Smith slamming on his brakes
Thats what I've been saying all day. I agree with you.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:36 pm to ihometiger
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 41s41 seconds ago
Bears repeating that Will Smith's prior 2010 arrest is not allowable as evidence in this case, per judge's ruling.
CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock 2m2 minutes ago
Did your husband have a temper?
Racquel: Do you have a temper?
Fuller: I get to ask the questions
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 2m
R. Smith to Fuller: Do you have a temper?
"Let me tell you something," Fuller says. "I ask the questions."
Bears repeating that Will Smith's prior 2010 arrest is not allowable as evidence in this case, per judge's ruling.
CJ Mordock ?@CJMordock 2m2 minutes ago
Did your husband have a temper?
Racquel: Do you have a temper?
Fuller: I get to ask the questions
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 2m
R. Smith to Fuller: Do you have a temper?
"Let me tell you something," Fuller says. "I ask the questions."
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:36 pm to ihometiger
Danny Monteverde ?@DCMonteverde 45s46 seconds ago
Fuller: would you say your husband was calm after the accident?
R. Smith: "No. No one was."
Fuller: would you say your husband was calm after the accident?
R. Smith: "No. No one was."
Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:37 pm to ihometiger
I dont see how anyone can say beyond reasonable doubt that Hayes committed murder 2. And that is based on what the prosecutions witness is saying
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