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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:52 am to Red Stick Tigress
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:52 am to Red Stick Tigress
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Mike Perlstein came back and said it wasn't unanimous after all. Said it was 10-2, the 2 wanting 2d degree Murder.
yeah I saw that... didn't feel like correcting those particular messages... was trying to put all the facts on the other site
but I did post the tweet about the 2 no votes here being from jurors who wanted "guilty as charged"
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:54 am to rt3
He shoulda got off sounds like he was just defending himself from a deranged ex-NFL player with road rage.
This is a victory for gun control advocates everywhere. Who says a man can't defend himself with fire when he's attacked? The NFL player starter shooting first is what I read in the Advocate.
This is a victory for gun control advocates everywhere. Who says a man can't defend himself with fire when he's attacked? The NFL player starter shooting first is what I read in the Advocate.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:55 am to rt3
any OT lawyers... how would either lawyer know WHY the jurors voted like they did?
in other words... how would the prosecution know and be able to tell the media the 2 jurors who voted no to manslaughter did so b/c they wanted to convict on 2nd degree murder?
TIA
in other words... how would the prosecution know and be able to tell the media the 2 jurors who voted no to manslaughter did so b/c they wanted to convict on 2nd degree murder?
TIA
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:58 am to King Teal
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The NFL player starter shooting first is what I read in the Advocate.
then you completely misconstrued your facts
prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that Will didn't have his gun and wasn't going for his gun at the moment he was shot
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:05 am to rt3
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any OT lawyers... how would either lawyer know WHY the jurors voted like they did?
In Florida you can poll the jurors after a trial if they choose to tell you how they voted. But they don't have to tell you shite.
My thinking here is there are some jurors who are probably attention whoring since they know it's a high profile case. They want to sell those books about the trial
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:09 am to tigerpimpbot
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In Florida you can poll the jurors after a trial if they choose to tell you how they voted. But they don't have to tell you shite.
My thinking here is there are some jurors who are probably attention whoring since they know it's a high profile case. They want to sell those books about the trial
ok yeah I know they were polling the jurors here after the case
never been through this so didn't know they could ask... figured it private... like the ballot I cast in the senate race on Saturday
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:12 am to rt3
The Judge usually tells the Jury just before they are released that they have the option to speak to the attorneys but that they don't have to do so. Lawyers always want to talk to them to ask their thoughts for future trial strategy. Sometimes the jurors will talk but sometimes the trial was so upsetting or contentious that they just want to get out of there.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:17 am to jbgleason
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The Judge usually tells the Jury just before they are released that they have the option to speak to the attorneys but that they don't have to do so. Lawyers always want to talk to them to ask their thoughts for future trial strategy. Sometimes the jurors will talk but sometimes the trial was so upsetting or contentious that they just want to get out of there.
cool thanks
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:19 am to jbgleason
Sad case. If Hernandez hadn't been an idiot and Smith been drunk, no one would have been injured or died. Hayes didn't set out to kill anyone. So many lives affected by idiocy. Families, including kids, friends etc... Smith was no hero in this case, but he shouldn't be dead.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:47 am to Gris Gris
Yea obviously Hayes did nothing wrong. 
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:52 am to tigerpimpbot
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They want to sell those books about the trial
It's not that big of a trialPosted on 12/12/16 at 2:19 am to LaBornNRaised
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Yea obviously Hayes did nothing wrong.
Are you insinuating that I said that?
Posted on 12/12/16 at 3:05 am to lsupride87
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Man, knowing you won an 8 month battle and 200 page thread over chad and lnch is a great way to end the weekend
Just for fun can you link to where I said it was definitely murder two and only murder two?
I can link to you saying you think he'll walk several times.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 3:11 am to lsupride87
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Based on the little that we know, gassers situation seems more like the slam dunk to me.
Slam dunk in which direction?
ETA: I see you think it's a slam dunk for murder now. Interesting take considering where the shots were fired from.
Definitely agree with the notion that Gasser looks to be the more likely tpos compared to Hayes though.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 3:20 am
Posted on 12/12/16 at 3:19 am to King Teal
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The NFL player starter shooting first is what I read in the Advocate.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 3:58 am to tgrbaitn08
Good
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 4:01 am
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:07 am to beauchristopher
I don't like how someone can be charged with one thing and not be found guilty on that charge but on a lesser one.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:17 am to tgrbaitn08
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Cardell Hayes: Not guilty of criminal damage. Guilty of attempted manslaughter. Guilty of manslaughter.
See ya. Wouldn't want to be ya.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:18 am to Janky
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I don't like how someone can be charged with one thing and not be found guilty on that charge but on a lesser one.
I'm ok with it being that they convicted him of the attempted manslaughter charge for also shooting Racquel. I don't think Hayes set out to kill either of them, but he did kill one and certainly could have killed both of his aim were more true.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 6:30 am to King Teal
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He shoulda got off sounds like he was just defending himself from a deranged ex-NFL player with road rage.
This is a victory for gun control advocates everywhere. Who says a man can't defend himself with fire when he's attacked? The NFL player starter shooting first is what I read in the Advocate.
You serious Clark?
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