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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:25 pm to Dizz
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:25 pm to Dizz
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He had to testify, if you are arguing self defense your client has to take the stand if he is capable of coherently testifying.
If I am in a situation where I know that we are looking at a shite deal because the self-defense thing is "iffy", I would be doing every maneuver I could think of to keep him off the stand.
That said, I also see your point.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:26 pm to BayouBengals03
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ESPN legal analyst Roger Cossack said in this situation it was okay to have him on the stand.
tLSU was all over this too. I thought they were crazy, but when tLSU laid out the reasoning, coupled with the fact that the prosecutors basically forced their hand, it made total sense. Very savvy prosecution move. It seems like a bad outcome for both sides, which is exactly why there was a jury trial, they couldn't agree.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:26 pm to lsupride87
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Based on the little that we know, gassers situation seems more like the slam dunk to me.
And the optics of his road rage past are hard to ignore for my biased brain
I will be team Jefferson parish in the gasser case
the one and only thing Gasser has going for him is he stayed in his car.
that will be the key difference between the 2 cases
early on I think he gets manslaughter as well... but I think he may have a better chance than Hayes does due to the simple fact that he stayed in his vehicle the whole time
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:29 pm to rt3
quote:Possibly. But McKnight not even being close to his uncles gun will also hurt gasser more. And I doubt McKnight will be wasted. And I don't know if gasser will have witnesses say McKnight was the aggressor like this case said about smith
early on I think he gets manslaughter as well... but I think he may have a better chance than Hayes does due to the simple fact that he stayed in his vehicle the whole time
I am thinking the State gets murder for Gasser
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:29 pm to diat150
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you never know when you can be put into a situation thru no doing of your own, and end up making a small misstep here or there and it cost you the ability to live a fulfilled life.
Agreed. I still maintain it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by six. That said, a small misstep can turn your world upside down.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:30 pm to damnedoldtigah
quote:Without trying to sound insensitive, it is still better to be Hayes than smith. The families take the biggest blow on both sides
Agreed. I still maintain it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by six. That said, a small misstep can turn your world upside down.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:31 pm to lsupride87
So they're saying the two no votes were for guilty as charged of murder now.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:31 pm to PillPusher
quote:Interesting
So they're saying the two no votes were for guilty as charged of murder now.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:33 pm to damnedoldtigah
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Agreed. I still maintain it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by six. That said, a small misstep can turn your world upside down.
yeah no doubt. its such a fine line and the smallest of details can mean life in prison or getting off. if hayes has a scuff on his face, he likely gets off. if ross had said he heard both guys say gun like he did in the video from the scene, he prob gets off. Im talking from the perspective of the shooter. Obviously this was a great loss for the smith family.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:34 pm to rt3
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Doug Mouton ?@DMoutonWWL
@MikePerlstein "The reports we're getting from the prosectution is 10-2, and the two holdouts were for "guilty as charged".
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:36 pm to rt3
quote:If I was Hayes this would actually allow me to sleep better
@MikePerlstein "The reports we're getting from the prosectution is 10-2, and the two holdouts were for "guilty as charged".
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:36 pm to lsupride87
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Possibly. But McKnight not even being close to his uncles gun will also hurt gasser more. And I doubt McKnight will be wasted. And I don't know if gasser will have witnesses say McKnight was the aggressor like this case said about smith
I am thinking the State gets murder for Gasser
castle doctrine
that... in my uneducated view... will be the play
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:36 pm to lsupride87
Has to affect sentencing knowing that
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:37 pm to rt3
quote:will def be the play
castle doctrine
But just because you come close to my castle, doesn't mean I get to kill you
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:37 pm to Chad504boy
I think she was giving him the upper limit regardless
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:39 pm to lsupride87
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will def be the play
But just because you come close to my castle, doesn't mean I get to kill you
yeah... but when you box me in by illegally parking on my passenger's side on the shoulder of the road and come up on my window
there may be something there
but like I said... I think he gets manslaughter too
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:40 pm to rt3
quote:fair enough. My gut says murder, but that could just be gas
yeah... but when you box me in by illegally parking on my passenger's side on the shoulder of the road and come up on my window
there may be something there
but like I said... I think he gets manslaughter too
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:41 pm to lsupride87
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But just because you come close to my castle, doesn't mean I get to kill you
Just have to reach in. Certainly nothing definitive right now, but it seems very plausible to me that it could have happened that way.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:42 pm to diat150
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yep. you never know when you can be put into a situation thru no doing of your own, and end up making a small misstep here or there and it cost you the ability to live a fulfilled life.
frick that is so depressing/anxiety inducing
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:43 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I just initially feel that gasser is a far bigger piece of shite then Hayes at the time of the killings. That is all. We will see what happens once the case starts and we get some witness testimony and evidence
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