re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

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Personally I think he's guilty but it's gonna e hard to get the jury to convict... 10 out of 12 seems tough in a hazy case like this

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Well, this board seems pretty well evenly split.....

Based on that he should walk due to hung jury.

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honest question, what's the law if someone is threatening to you and you actually fear for your life, if you defend yourself you have to have evidence somehow showing that you were actually scared for your life? What if you drop a deuce in your drawz? Would that be evidence enough?

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If you don't have reasonable fear, i.e. fear that can be shown to be reasonable to others, you're not justified. It's not a hard concept.

You yourself admit you don't even know the charge Hayes is facing. But yea, attack me.

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If you don't have reasonable fear, i.e. fear that can be shown to be reasonable to others, you're not justified. It's not a hard concept.

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did you even read my post you quoted? I said if you had 'fear for your life', I think one would assume fear for life is reasonable enough right?

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I think one would assume fear for life is reasonable enough right

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Absolutely not. People fire through doors at noises all the time. If they kill the milkman, was that reasonable?

ETA: Maybe and maybe not, depends on the circumstances.

I don't know that I think he should walk, but a part of me hopes he does.

I hate that this happened. I truly do for everyone involved. I'm no lawyer but it seems that CHs lawyer didn't do a great job ... why would he let his client lie (if he did) on the stand?? Evidence (assuming it wasn't tampered with) shows that there was ONE GUN, right???

Also, I really just want at the end of the day for the man to get a fair trial. And despite it being a former Saints player that was killed, how in the hell does a juror remember EVERYTHING without taking notes?? That alone to me makes nothing a fair trial.

Am I crazy??

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honest question, what's the law if someone is threatening to you (by physically making contact with you while someone is trying to hold them back and tell them to stop and then turning around and reaching for a gun) and you actually fear for your life, if you defend yourself you have to have evidence somehow showing that you were actually scared for your life? What if you drop a deuce in your drawz? Would that be evidence enough?

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Fixed it to make it where I guess a reaonable person would possibly fear for ones life, but not sure what everyone feels is reasonable

That's not what happens here. Nothing has shown Hayes to have any reasonable fear for his life. Certainly not from Smith. Had he shot Hernandez, there could be an argument. But the Smiths are who ended up shot and killed.