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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18561 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:32 pm to
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can you elaborate more what you mean here.




the lead detective doesnt do everything on a case

for example, he doesnt do all of the forensic testing

so by asking the lead detective about the forensic evidence and him responding "i dont know" it makes him look like a fool to people that arent familiar with the process

and even though the forensic expert will testify on a different day, the defense attorney has already planted the seed that the lead detective is a fool and therefore the entire investigation is flawed
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111417 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:32 pm to
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Pretty sure Airbags are not meant to deploy if your vehicle is rear ended.
What? That is one of the most important times for them to deploy. It keeps your head from breaking open on the dashboard or steering wheel
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:33 pm to
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Breaking: Racquel Smith now on the stand. #WillSmithTrial @wdsu

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:33 pm to
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Teh evidence at the scene of the shooting is going to weigh more than the contributing evidence, but everything that happened that night is part of the entire event and is evidence.



The victim having dinner?

This classic stuff out of the Defense playbook I've seen (and used) countless times. LOOK OVER HERE.

None of it matters.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74245 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:33 pm to
There are no airbags meant to deploy for rear impact. For frontal impact each sensor has to read a G-force equivalent to a 12mph crash at each point. Side impacts had to measure 3-4 Gs of lateral force to operate.

I think these numbers are standardized for all American sold cars with airbags.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111417 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:34 pm to
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Breaking: Racquel Smith now on the stand. #WillSmithTrial @wdsu
This testimony, along with O'Neals for Hayes, should be ignored on this board. People are going to fly off the rails after both of them
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18561 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:34 pm to
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The victim having dinner?



quote:

None of it matters.




red meat makes you aggressive

if smith ate steak, he's clearly the aggressor

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130247 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Honestly, some on this board play right into the classic tricks. Asking one person about the testimony the attorney knows will be elicited from the ballistics expert, as he has the report and the name of the person who tested it.


Exactly the same thing I said. I assume you're an attorney as well.

Lay people eat this stupid trick shite up like candy. Its almost too easy.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
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What? That is one of the most important times for them to deploy. It keeps your head from breaking open on the dashboard or steering wheel



I don't think you're right here. That's what your seat belts are for. I can't say I've ever seen a rear ended car with deployed air bags. Off to Google
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47797 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
Im most interested in PT's testimony, if he actually saw what happened.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Similarly, frontal air bags should generally not deploy in rear impacts; however, if you are hit from behind and pushed into a car in front of you, that second impact to your car's front end may justify deployment of your air bags
Posted by reddman
Member since Jul 2005
78195 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
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Breaking: Racquel Smith now on the stand. #WillSmithTrial @wdsu



This is going to be intense, and probably last a few hours.
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
8684 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
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can you elaborate more what you mean here.


Typically, the pellets (yes, that's what they're called in the ballistics world) are recovered and sent to crime lab, and if the case was already cleared by arrest, the results will go straight to the ADAs screening the case for indictment. The detective doesn't test anything, he doesn't necessarily care about what the results are until he arrives for motions (if necessary) and he won't testify to what the results were. If the ADA would have asked for the result on direct, fuller would jump up and scream "hearsay" because the detective has no direct knowledge of it.

The defense was given a ballistics report with the name of the examiner. That expert will be called and will give the results of all the comparisons. There's a reason the GJ returned an indictment on that count.

Fuller is asking a question the guy can't answer from the wrong person to make it seem like there's a gotcha moment.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111417 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:35 pm to
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red meat makes you aggressive

if smith ate steak, he's clearly the aggressor
I think being shite faced is relevant. Alcohol has been proven to make some people aggressive
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:36 pm to
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What? That is one of the most important times for them to deploy. It keeps your head from breaking open on the dashboard or steering wheel





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The airbags will not get deployed if some one hits the car from the back.
Airbags are deigned to keep you from hitting the dashboard or steering during sudden deceleration. In case of a rear collision, there may be acceleration instead of deceleration. For curtain airbags side sensors are used. The airbags for driver and passenger airbags are in the front, much behind the front bumpers.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:36 pm to
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What? That is one of the most important times for them to deploy. It keeps your head from breaking open on the dashboard or steering wheel



Not sure why you're laughing,


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However, in higher speed front-end crashes, front airbags deploy to protect your head and chest as they move forward. Front airbags usually don’t deploy in rear-end collisions, side impacts or rollovers.


PDF

I was in a car dead stopped leaving a Saints game that was hit by a car going over 50 mph from the back and the airbags didn't go off
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 3:38 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111417 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:36 pm to
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I don't think you're right here. That's what your seat belts are for. I can't say I've ever seen a rear ended car with deployed air bags.
I have. And they went off and burned the shite out of my arms. Now, it was a 1995 Bronco that most likely was fricked up
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74245 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

What? That is one of the most important times for them to deploy. It keeps your head from breaking open on the dashboard or steering wheel



No.

google it.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:37 pm to
"I deem this to be inadmissible to the court."

don't bring others "pasts" into this if Smith's past won't be indulged in.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178944 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 3:38 pm to
Typical sleezy shite, does it hurt fuller when this gets squashed by examiner later on?
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