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Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:44 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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I think one bullet when through both her legs and got lodged in the passenger door. she then fell out of truck and crawled away.
Please stop thinking.
Racquel was near the driver's door with Will. She was shot and then crawled to the sidewalk behind or between some parked cars.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:45 pm to Chad504boy
I thought she was in the other seat and she was hit as Hayes was shooting at Will. Was she inside or outside the car?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:47 pm to tgrbaitn08
This whole trial and the future McKnight trial teach us the following:
1) Don't engage in road rage
2) Don't leave your vehicle if you are involved in one.
3) Acting like a hot head can lead to your untimely demise.
4) Don't drink and drive (smith incident)
Hayes is guilty. Will Smith is responsible for some of this. He had too much to drink, was driving over the legal limit, bumped into the hummer, fled that scene (probably to avoid the cops coming and performing a field sobriety test), Hayes then chases Will down, bumps him in retaliation, Smith now angry that he has been hit is angry and due to his inebriated state decides to keep it real and confront Hayes.
Hayes, also a larger man with high testerone, is not going to back down to someone,who wants to engage on disrespecting him and his hummer obliges Will Smith in the altercation. Hayes grabs his gun, smith sees said gun and in further effort to keep it real says something to the fact: you got yours let me get mine. Hayes after hearing this and seeing Smith retreat to seemingly get his gun opens fire.
Murder 2 maybe
Manslaughter more likely.
Will Smith at 34 with two kids, beautiful wife, and millions in the bank is still alive today had he not fled the scene of the first contact with Hayes had he just calmly stopped, exchanged information, and gone on his way. Perhaps Hayes would not have wanted to call the cops once he saw who had hit him
Alcohol, not consumed repsponsibliy, can lead to poor choices setting off a chain of events that can lead to death.
1) Don't engage in road rage
2) Don't leave your vehicle if you are involved in one.
3) Acting like a hot head can lead to your untimely demise.
4) Don't drink and drive (smith incident)
Hayes is guilty. Will Smith is responsible for some of this. He had too much to drink, was driving over the legal limit, bumped into the hummer, fled that scene (probably to avoid the cops coming and performing a field sobriety test), Hayes then chases Will down, bumps him in retaliation, Smith now angry that he has been hit is angry and due to his inebriated state decides to keep it real and confront Hayes.
Hayes, also a larger man with high testerone, is not going to back down to someone,who wants to engage on disrespecting him and his hummer obliges Will Smith in the altercation. Hayes grabs his gun, smith sees said gun and in further effort to keep it real says something to the fact: you got yours let me get mine. Hayes after hearing this and seeing Smith retreat to seemingly get his gun opens fire.
Murder 2 maybe
Manslaughter more likely.
Will Smith at 34 with two kids, beautiful wife, and millions in the bank is still alive today had he not fled the scene of the first contact with Hayes had he just calmly stopped, exchanged information, and gone on his way. Perhaps Hayes would not have wanted to call the cops once he saw who had hit him
Alcohol, not consumed repsponsibliy, can lead to poor choices setting off a chain of events that can lead to death.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:47 pm to TigahJay
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I thought she was in the other seat and she was hit as Hayes was shooting at Will. Was she inside or outside the car?
She was shot when standing by Will by drivers side door is my thinking.
zero blood to be found from a woman that would have been crawling out and around.

This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:49 pm to TigahJay
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All the detective said was that it was a "significant collision" based on the damage. Open for interpretation. The logs from the Hummer will be telling if they can use them.
ok, my bad..he said..
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Det. Bachelder says the bumper, spare tire, and back door of #WillSmith's Mercedes SUV was damaged. The rear window was shattered.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:50 pm to SuperSaint
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I still think he should walk. But it's unfortunate he is a dead man walking and already convicted
well, if prosecutions opening remarks are supported by evidence, he should get the chair.
You don't gun down someone in cold blood and get away with it.
Just like that cop should get convicted of shooting that unarmed man.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:50 pm to Covingtontiger77
quote:
This whole trial and the future McKnight trial teach us the following:
1) Don't engage in road rage
2) Don't leave your vehicle if you are involved in one.
3) Acting like a hot head can lead to your untimely demise.
4) Don't drink and drive
Hayes is guilty. Will Smith is responsible for some of this. He had too much to drink, was driving over the legal limit, bumped into the hummer, fled that scene (probably to avoid the cops coming and performing a field sobriety test), Hayes then chases Will down, bumps him in retaliation, Smith now angry that he has been hit is angry and due to his intebroared state decides to keep it real and confront Hayes.
Hayes, also a larger man with high testerone, is not going to back down to someone,who wants to engage on disrespecting him and his hummer obliges Will Smith in the altercation. Hayes grabs his gun, smith sees said gun and in further effort to keep it real says something to the fact: you got yours let me get mine. Hates after hearing this and seeing Smith retreat to seemingly get his gun opens fire.
Murder 2 maybe
Manslaughter more likely.
Will Smith at 34 with two kids, beautiful wife, and millions in the bank is still alive today had he not fled the scene of the first contact with Hayes had he just calmly stopped, exchanged information, and gone on his way. Perhaps Hayes would bot have wanted to call the cops once he saw who had hot him
Alcohol, not consumed repsponsibliy, can lead to poor choices setting off a chain of events that can lead on death.
I agree with all of this.
I've been in 2 fender benders where we didn't call the cops. Exchanged info and went on our way. I gave 1 fella $100 and fixed his bumper.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 1:50 pm to TigahJay
they said she was outside the car standing next to Will when Hayes approached their car
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:04 pm to tgrbaitn08
Two puzzling things from this morning:
Where did he go and when did he return or did he?
Was it established on where the gun was found?
Edited: Found answer to second question.
I don't understand why the gun wasn't seized then. Was other evidence like the casings found in the Mercedes or the projectile fund in the passenger door seized that night or after the search warrant was obtained?
quote:
FOX 8 New Orleans Verified account
?@FOX8NOLA
Daniels says #WillSmith's passenger, Richard Hernandez instigated the incident and ran from the scene after the shooting.
Where did he go and when did he return or did he?
quote:
FOX 8 New Orleans Retweeted
Natasha Robin Verified account ?@NRobinFOX8 1h1 hour ago New Orleans, LA
Det. Bachelor testifies that there was no gun in #WillSmith's glove compartment.
Was it established on where the gun was found?
Edited: Found answer to second question.
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Bachelder says gun was found between seat and center console.
I don't understand why the gun wasn't seized then. Was other evidence like the casings found in the Mercedes or the projectile fund in the passenger door seized that night or after the search warrant was obtained?
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Napoli asked the detective why he didn't seize Smith's gun from Smith's Mercedes the night of the shooting, at the crime scene. Bachelder said he didn't remove it because the vehicles were getting impounded and he believed a search warrant would be obtained to search the Mercedes.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:07 pm to TigerFred
Between the drivers seat and the console
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:09 pm to TigahJay
Thanks I found that info on NOLA.com and edited my post.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:24 pm to TigerFred
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I don't understand why the gun wasn't seized then. Was other evidence like the casings found in the Mercedes or the projectile fund in the passenger door seized that night or after the search warrant was obtained?
quote:
Napoli asked the detective why he didn't seize Smith's gun from Smith's Mercedes the night of the shooting, at the crime scene. Bachelder said he didn't remove it because the vehicles were getting impounded and he believed a search warrant would be obtained to search the Mercedes.
I remember them stating they was no gun from that night all the way until Monday the next week.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:28 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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I remember them stating they was no gun from that night all the way until Monday the next week.
Yeah it was pretty fishy considering Smith had just left dinner with a former NOPD officer.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:32 pm to TigahJay
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Yeah it was pretty fishy considering Smith had just left dinner with a former NOPD officer.
you shouldn't be posting during trial fuller.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:35 pm to Chad504boy
I see Chad is still being an ignorant douche regarding this case.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:37 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I see Chad is still being an ignorant douche regarding this case.
That's a fairly hypocritical strategy there Johnny. Prosecutors have stated Cervolo is on surveillance away from the scene but its not ignorant to still roll with the whole sounds fishy theories.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 2:43 pm to Chad504boy
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This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 2:46 pm
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