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Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
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No one well trained with firearms will have the safety off just walking around. Are you really going to argue that?
Um, yeah? Most people "walking around" with a concealed firearm have a bullet in the chamber without the safety engaged. Of course their training tells them the importance of a proper holster as well as trigger discipline and how to use their particular gun.
Some of the most popular compact handguns meant for concealed carry do not even have a safety
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:21 am to GynoSandberg
But you are surprised he stored it with the safety off. Doesn't make much sense.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:22 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Dude, all conditions are discussed and taught in class.
Right after you show me where anyone is taught to store a weapon with the safety off.
Condition 1 and 0 are the most common.
It all comes down to how comfortable one is with their weapon, and how uncomfortable they are with their surroundings.
Google. It is everywhere. A true man can say the words "im a elitist prick who actually doesnt know everything."
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:23 am to lsupride87
I'm not an elitist prick. I don't know everything. It's not surprising a gun is put away with the safety on.
And for a guy that wants me to say I'm wrong., I've never once see you do that either. So again, you're a hypocrite.
And for a guy that wants me to say I'm wrong., I've never once see you do that either. So again, you're a hypocrite.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:24 am to GynoSandberg
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Some of the most popular compact handguns meant for concealed carry do not even have a safety
that's exactly what I was just thinking
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:24 am to lsupride87
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wrong. Very common technique to walk around cocked and locked. In fact, all law enforcement officers are taught to walk around this way. Known as condition 0
Sorry, you are wrong. Cocked and locked refers to a single action gun, such as a 1911 or a SA/DA like a CZ 75. Cocked and locked means a chambered round with the hammer cocked and safety ON. This is called condition ONE. Condition Zero is chambered, hammer cocked and no safety. No one, and I mean no one, is going to walk around like that.
Most (95%) of double action only guns, such as Glocks, do not have an external safety. and thus one would carry with a chambered round but no safety on because there is NO safety.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:24 am to lsupride87
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Google. It is everywhere. A true man can say the words "im a elitist prick who actually doesnt know everything."
I'm still waiting for him to link me the post where he claimed that he didn't know everything about the law that he was telling me about yesterday.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:24 am to LNCHBOX
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I'm not an elitist prick. I don't know everything. It's not surprising a gun is put away with the safety on.
Way to move the goalpost And on this site, you are about as much of an elitist prick as possible
Which is cool, I am sure that is just the TD personna. Lord knows I am not like this IRL
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:25 am to TigahJay
And you'll still be waiting. If you can't read, it's on you.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
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But you are surprised he stored it with the safety off. Doesn't make much sense.
Yes, I would be very surprised if he stored it in his vehicle with the safety engaged. He was obviously carrying for self defense purposes on his person, the idea of having the gun ready to use doesnt change when he moves it to his car. And again, his gun very well may not have even had a safety, who knows
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:26 am to BrotherEsau
quote:This is correct
Sorry, you are wrong. Cocked and locked refers to a single action gun, such as a 1911 or a SA/DA like a CZ 75. Cocked and locked means a chambered round with the hammer cocked and safety ON. This is called condition ONE.
quote:This is bullshite
No one, and I mean no one, is going to walk around like that.
quote:This is true again
Most (95%) of double action only guns, such as Glocks, do not have an external safety. and thus one would carry with a chambered round but no safety on because there is NO safety.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:26 am to lsupride87
Yeah gotta love how he changed the argument from carrying with the safety on the storage with the safety on when he realized he was wrong
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:28 am to TigahJay
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Yeah gotta love how he changed the argument from carrying with the safety on the storage with the safety on when he realized he was wrong
My first post on the subject was about storing it. Thanks though.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
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This is bullshite
ok, no one other than a true retard. If you carry cocked and locked, you train yourself to flip the safety on draw. You realize a single action trigger pull is going to be a hair trigger right? Maybe if the gun has a grip safety, otherwise, no way.
But it doesn't matter for this thread.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:29 am to LNCHBOX
This is an exact quote from you
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If you're well trained with firearms, the safety is on unless you're about to pull the trigger.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:29 am to GynoSandberg
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Some of the most popular compact handguns meant for concealed carry do not even have a safety
I don't have a gun with a safety come to think of it.
Never really thought much about it. Heavy trigger pull.
I prefer revolvers for car carry, harder to prove if you weren't 100% in the right.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:30 am to BrotherEsau
quote:Solid rebuttal
no one other than a true retard.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:30 am to GynoSandberg
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Yes, I would be very surprised if he stored it in his vehicle with the safety engaged. He was obviously carrying for self defense purposes on his person, the idea of having the gun ready to use doesnt change when he moves it to his car. And again, his gun very well may not have even had a safety, who knows
I just don;'t see why you'd expect him to keep the safety on when he's putting it up for a few hours. I'd understand the safety off if he was carrying it at the time of the shooting.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:30 am to TigahJay
But not the first one. Like I said, you can't read.
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