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re: Will Louisiana ever improve?

Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:13 am to
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:13 am to
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Yeah the south has the sportmans paradise


What????
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:21 am to
If all the people leave and the state is reinhabited by non-rednecks, sure.
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
Member since Oct 2010
14564 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:24 am to
U is dumb
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12144 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 7:59 am to
I'm staying put. I could make more in other states, but I'm 45 min from some of the best fishing in the world. My job allows me the opportunity to fish a couple times a week. I have family that lives here and does well. I have other family members doing well and live out of state. One theme from them is they visit often, miss home terribly, and want to move back when they retire. So I ask myself would I ever leave? Maybe, but I love this damn dysfunctional state.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72036 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:07 am to
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You haven't traveled the country extensively if you think Louisiana is the worst place. Go spend a week in Vineland, NJ or Ripley, WV and get back to me
Collectively, on average, LA is the bottom of the barrel in nearly all statistical measurements.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1471 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:23 am to
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An intelligent person in Louisiana with a college degree and a good work ethic is like an NBA player in the European league. In other states you're just average. But in Louisiana you're an all-star who sets scoring records and can command a higher salary than the rest of the team.


I laughed, but it's true. It's all about how you look at it, though. The way I see it all of my potential competition is just leaving me a clear path to run the table.

We can only change what is within our control. I've seen a few parishes and communities with proper leadership make serious strides in recent years, and if I'm successful I hope to spearhead a renaissance in my own one day. It takes selling an idea and building a sense of communal pride/accountability.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48436 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:27 am to
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Collectively, on average, LA is the bottom of the barrel in nearly all statistical measurements.

And it's mostly because we are dragged down by the bottom 30-40% of our residents. I'm not arguing there aren't better places to live but there are worse. My wife is from Birmingham and she thinks BR is a much better place to live than her hometown. I suppose that's subjective though.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27679 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:28 am to
Anyone else ever experience the “Louisiana insecure syndrome”?

I moved away and every time I see or talk to family or friends, they always bring up how great Louisiana is and how happy they are. Even when we aren’t even talking about anything remotely close to Louisiana

It’s like deep down they know they live in a bad place, but they try to show off any chance they get on how awesome it is
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 8:28 am
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:41 am to
I got out of Louisiana when I joined the military. Got to see a lot of the world and train all over the United States. Went to college up north and worked up there for the first couple years out of college. It was awesome. Fenway park, Yankee stadium, Cape Cod, Maine, Mountains of Vermont and NH... all of it was great.

I guess I had been away so long that I forgot how bad Louisiana was, so I got nostalgic and moved back. Of all the places I’ve been, Louisiana is by far the most backward and fricked up. The state refuses to move forward in a number of categories. I thought by moving back here we could have a positive impact and help change the culture of our area but we have both given up. We came back here with the best of intentions. Bought a house, started a family, both college-educated, wife has a masters, homeowners, middle-class incomes. Nobody around us has any drive. No fitness culture, no desire for better schools. Just throw your kid in the nearest Catholic school and call it good mentality. It’s just hopeless I feel.

And it truly sucks because I want my son to grow up close to his family but the state offers us nothing. Both of our occupations are paid significantly higher in other states (even when accounting for COL).

We’ll probably end up somewhere in New England or out west in the next few years. Louisiana just can’t get out of its own way.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 8:46 am
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26543 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:44 am to
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Anyone else ever experience the “Louisiana insecure syndrome”?


All the damn time. I have friends that always want to show me all the "great" things going on in Louisiana. I also get plenty of pictures of boiled crawfish with a caption similar to "bet you wish you still lived here!"

Yes, I do miss LSU gamedays, and boiled crawfish are awesome. But no, it's not enough to make me want to move back. Not even remotely close.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 8:49 am
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:53 am to
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Nobody around us has any drive. No fitness culture, no desire for better schools. Just throw your kid in the nearest Catholic school and call it good mentality. It’s just hopeless I feel.


Louisiana lacks ambition. Everyone is so wrapped up in the history and culture (which are important) that they have forgotten how to move forward. The laissez faire culture is just taken too far.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 8:56 am
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7334 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 8:58 am to
No
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30593 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:04 am to
Demographics is the issue in Louisiana.
Posted by LSUChamp06
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2007
2859 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:06 am to
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An intelligent person in Louisiana with a college degree and a good work ethic is like an NBA player in the European league. In other states you're just average. But in Louisiana you're an all-star who sets scoring records and can command a higher salary than the rest of the team.


There’s a lack of these all-star positions in Louisiana though. Louisiana is great if you don’t need a job.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72036 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:06 am to
LA has far more problems than simply “demographics”.

Scruffy can’t think of a single metric where LA doesn’t have a problem.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:12 am to
Yea, his argument doesn’t really make sense. I see what he’s trying to say but like you said, there’s a lack of these positions available.

It’s kind of like Lebron James going to play basketball in Brazil. Lebron being the highly educated all-star and Brazil being Louisiana. Sure, Lebron James would be just as talented and great but Brazilian culture doesn’t give a shite about basketball. They’d offer him to play goalie or something he hasn’t done before.

Louisiana doesn’t give two shits about education. A PhD in Psychology won’t get you entry-level work on an offshore rig but they’ll hire an ex-con with roustabout experience.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 9:17 am
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22243 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 9:23 am to
My go-to statement about the 3rd World of Louisiana: "The people don't want good government - they want pretty good government"
Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 10:59 am to
Same issue that is happening in Los Angeles.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:11 am to
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I don’t see most Louisianans leaving; It’s probably the least transient state in the country.

LA's brain drain is pretty well documented.

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Almost every other state promises more opportunity and a better quality of life.
We're near the bottom in economic opportunity.
We're worst, or among the worst, in almost every category of child well-being.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421968 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 11:37 am to
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Everyone is so wrapped up in the history and culture (which are important) that they have forgotten how to move forward.

it's impossible to move forward with our underclass

how can you allocate enough resources to advance when so much of your public spending goes towards supporting regressive populations and keeping them afloat? every year that share of the pie grows and sucks more out of the public coffers

our budget problem isn't about tax cuts. it's Medicaid spending. something like 1/3 of our population is on Medicaid. if you want a symbolic stat about LA (and other states in the same boat), look no further. that share grows every year. it's not sustainable
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 11:38 am
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