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re: Will having babies out of wedlock ever be taboo again?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 2:58 pm to slackster
Posted on 12/27/18 at 2:58 pm to slackster
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Like I said - people don't want the inconvenience of kids. Having 2+ children for every 2-parent household is the most fundamental way to change this country, but people can't be bothered.
I mean, I know a lot of smart people who'd love to have a ton of kids.
But until we start talking about adjusting the variables that make having that many children more financially viable for 2-parent, working homes then your criticism is a moot point.
It's an incredibly shallow view to suggest it's simply that they "can't be bothered". When you weigh things like the cost of childcare in this country (which with multiple children can equal more than the cost of a mortgage/house payment) then it's not hard to see why it's not incredibly affordable for people to have that many children. Not when they're actually working for it and paying their bills.
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 2:59 pm to TH03
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Millennials will ruin it intellectually by having the dumb ones with 6 kids and the educated ones with 0.
It's a major problem, and the educated don't seem to think they're doing anything wrong.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:00 pm to slackster
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It's a major problem, and the educated don't seem to think they're doing anything wrong.
At this point it's more affordable for an unwed teenage mother on welfare to pop out multiple kids then it is for two parent working families to pop out the same number of kids.
That's the reality of the situation and until you fix that it's not going to change.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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But until we start talking about adjusting the variables that make having that many children more financially viable for 2-parent, working homes then your criticism is a moot point.
It's the truth though. Successful people would rather prioritize themselves and have only 1 or 0 children than be inconvenienced to sacrifice their frivolous spending to support multiple children.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:02 pm to BluegrassBelle
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It's an incredibly shallow view to suggest it's simply that they "can't be bothered". When you weigh things like the cost of childcare in this country (which with multiple children can equal more than the cost of a mortgage/house payment) then it's not hard to see why it's not incredibly affordable for people to have that many children. Not when they're actually working for it and paying their bills.
Again, these are things people way when they don't want to make any sacrafices in order to have children. That's perfectly fine, but it's a losing cause in the end.
It doesn't matter where you're at financially - having a child is a financial sacrafice. Unfortunately, many people would rather do something else. That's a simple fact.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:03 pm to Displaced
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It's the truth though. Successful people would rather prioritize themselves and have only 1 or 0 children than be inconvenienced to sacrifice their frivilous spending to support multiple children.
Except it isn't. A lot of people even here will tell you if you want to raise a well-rounded, well-educated kid today it's incredibly expensive. Who wants to raise multiple kids in a home where you're living paycheck to paycheck?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:04 pm to slackster
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Again, these are things people way when they don't want to make any sacrafices in order to have children. That's perfectly fine, but it's a losing cause in the end.
It doesn't matter where you're at financially - having a child is a financial sacrafice. Unfortunately, many people would rather do something else. That's a simple fact.
Nah. I'd rather have one kid that I can pay to have a good education, not have to attend a shitty daycare, and to not have to grow up poor than have three and have to count pennies in the couch to get by. Ignoring the financial viability of having multiple children in a society where it's cheaper to have them subsidized by the government is a little irresponsible.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:05 pm to TopFlightSecurity
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Yep. It's too bad Christians now are completely fine with frivolous divorce.
All I gotta do is bah-lieve! I can mold God into whatever I want him to be!
Who am I to judge?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:06 pm to slackster
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the educated don't seem to think they're doing anything wrong.
The educated people aren't the ones doing anything wrong, it's the dumbasses who can't even afford 1 kid but have 6 who are doing it wrong
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
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At this point it's more affordable for an unwed teenage mother on welfare to pop out multiple kids then it is for two parent working families to pop out the same number of kids.
That's the reality of the situation and until you fix that it's not going to change.
You realize that the amount of children per family is inversely correlated with income?
The more money you make, the least likely you are to have children. That's a problem, and it has nothing to do with affordability.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:08 pm to NIH
It't the ultimate form of Child Abuse.
When I'm Kang, tubes tied after first bastard and it's put up for adoption. Permanent Jimmy hat for da baby daddy also.
Wealth has no bearing on it either, had a wealthy client with a bat shiz crazy daughter with two. First one is as fooked up as her mother now but lives well off her trust fund.
When I'm Kang, tubes tied after first bastard and it's put up for adoption. Permanent Jimmy hat for da baby daddy also.
Wealth has no bearing on it either, had a wealthy client with a bat shiz crazy daughter with two. First one is as fooked up as her mother now but lives well off her trust fund.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:08 pm to Masterag
Your young family member is a slut.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:08 pm to jchamil
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The educated people aren't the ones doing anything wrong
, famous last words. quote:
it's the dumbasses who can't even afford 1 kid but have 6 who are doing it wrong
They're more at fault, no doubt, but if you're not at least replacing yourself in this world, you shoulder some of the blame too.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:11 pm to slackster
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if you're not at least replacing yourself in this world, you shoulder some of the blame too.
We're doing our part
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:14 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Nah. I'd rather have one kid that I can pay to have a good education, not have to attend a shitty daycare, and to not have to grow up poor than have three and have to count pennies in the couch to get by. Ignoring the financial viability of having multiple children in a society where it's cheaper to have them subsidized by the government is a little irresponsible.
That's fine, but just know you're sealing the fate of whatever beliefs you and your spouse may hold dear. Your culture is weaker for that decision, because as we've pointed out many times in this thread, the rest of the world isn't slowing down.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:15 pm to slackster
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That's fine, but just know you're sealing the fate of whatever beliefs you and your spouse may hold dear. Your culture is weaker for that decision, because as we've pointed out many times in this thread, the rest of the world isn't slowing down.
I'm not worried about it, people who think they are saving the world by having a couple extra kids just have an illegitimate view of their own relevance and importance.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:16 pm to Displaced
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No. And our civilization is going to suffer because of it.
Because having a child out of wedlock is some new thing that’s just popped up in the last 20 years.
It’s not having children out of wedlock that’s the issue. It’s the fathers that don’t stick around to be a responsible, present father.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:18 pm to slackster
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That's fine, but just know you're sealing the fate of whatever beliefs you and your spouse may hold dear. Your culture is weaker for that decision, because as we've pointed out many times in this thread, the rest of the world isn't slowing down.
If you say so.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:19 pm to jchamil
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We're doing our part
Good.
I know it sounds tribal, but it should. It's such a basic concept, yet people can't see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:19 pm to Prominentwon
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It’s not having children out of wedlock that’s the issue. It’s the fathers that don’t stick around to be a responsible, present father.
Wouldn't you say that being married when you have a kid greatly increases the chances of having a father stick around?
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