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re: Wildfires in Louisiana

Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:11 am to
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4596 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:11 am to
After Laura they had designated areas throughout different parishes they would bring and pile up and burn
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
618 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:17 am to
I worked LDEQ for time doing some solid waste permitting. I know it's the regulation not to transport, but unless LDEQ is out there enforcing, no one really cares. Just like only LDEQ cares if you transport more than 20 tires at once without a permit.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4385 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:24 am to
quote:

What are they calling “waste”? Surely not paper trash, right?


Sorry, that link I provided is a little outdated. Did it from my phone real quick knowing you can't transport and burn solid waste (trees) without a permit.

You can burn combustable material (paper) per 1109.D.1-9. If you do not meet those exceptions, you cannot burn paper or anything else combustable. So, if you have a fire pit and you are roasting some marshmellows and you start your fire with paper, you're fine. Same for grilling or your fire place. Burning it soley to get rid of it as waste is prohibited.

Here is the link to the environmental regs from LDEQ's website:
LAC 33:III on LDEQs website

Download that section 03 Air if you want the latest.

§1109. Control of Air Pollution from Outdoor Burning
A. Purpose. It is the purpose of this Section to control outdoor burning of waste or other combustible material.
.....
D. Exceptions to Prohibition against Outdoor Burning. Outdoor burning of waste material or other combustible material may be conducted in the situations enumerated below if no public nuisance is or will be created and if the burning is not prohibited by and is conducted in compliance with other applicable laws and with regulations and orders of governmental entities having jurisdiction, including air control regulations and orders. The authority to conduct outdoor burning under this regulation does not exempt or excuse the person responsible from the consequences of or the damages or injuries resulting from the burning:
1. outdoor burning in connection with the preparation of food;
2. campfires and fires used solely for recreational purposes or for ceremonial occasions;

3. outdoor burning in a rural park or rural recreation area of trees, brush, grass, and other vegetable matter for game management purposes in accordance with practices acceptable to Louisiana Parks and Recreation Commission and Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission;
4. small fires, by tradesmen and contractors, in such activities as street repair, installation or repair of sewer, water, electric, telephone mains, and services;
5. the operation of contrivances using open flames such as welding torches, blow torches, portable heaters, and other flame making devices;
6. outdoor burning, in other than rural park or rural recreation area, of trees, brush, grass, and other vegetable matter from such area in land clearing and right-of-way maintenance operations if the following conditions are met:
a. prevailing winds at the time of the burning must be away from any city or town, the ambient air of which may be affected by smoke from the burning;
b. the location of the burning must be at least
1,000 feet (305 meters) from any dwelling other than a dwelling or structure located on the property on which the burning is conducted;
c. care must be used to minimize the amount of dirt on the material being burned;
d. heavy oils, asphaltic materials, items containing natural or synthetic rubber, or any materials other than plant growth which produce unreasonable amounts of smoke may not be burned; nor may these substances be used to start a fire;
e. the burning may be conducted only between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. Piles of combustible material should be of such size to allow complete reduction in this time interval; and
f. the burning must be controlled so that a traffic hazard as prohibited by Subsection E of this Section is not created;
7. fire purposely set as a part of an organized program of drills for the training of fire fighting personnel or for testing fire fighting materials or equipment if the following conditions are met:
a. the duration of the burning held to the minimum required for such purposes;
b. the burning is conducted only between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m.; and
. the burning is controlled so that a traffic hazard as prohibited by Subsection E of this Section is not created;
8. outdoor burning of waste hydrocarbon products (from petroleum exploration, development or production operations, natural gas processing, such as, but not limited to, basic sediments, oil produced in testing an oil well, and paraffin) may be conducted at the site of origin when it is not practicable to transport the waste products for sale or reclamation, or to dispose of them lawfully in some other manner. In addition, hydrocarbons spilled or lost from pipeline breaks or other transport failure which cannot practicably be recovered or be disposed of lawfully in some other manner may be outdoor burned at the site where the spill occurred or at another appropriate place due to safety considerations. Except when the immediate or continuous burning of hydrocarbon spills is reasonably necessary to abate or eliminate an existing or imminent threat of injury to human life or significant damage to property, the outdoor burning shall be conducted under the following conditions:
a. the location of the burning must not be within or adjacent to a city or town or in such proximity thereto that the ambient air of the city or town may be affected by smoke from the burning;
b. the burning is conducted only between the hours of 8 a.m. and 5 p.m.; and
c. the burning is controlled so that a traffic hazard as prohibited by Subsection E of this Section is not created; and
9. special situations approvable for exemption by the administrative authority prior to initiation of burning operation, as follows:
a. outdoor burning of explosives, pyrophoric, or any other materials where there is no practicable or safe method of disposal;
b. experimental burning for purposes of data gathering and research; and
c. nonrecurring unusual circumstances or any condition not covered above.
E. Traffic Hazards Prohibited. The emission of smoke, suspended particulate matter or uncombined water or any air contaminants or combinations thereof which passes onto or across a public road and creates a traffic hazard by impairment of visibility, as defined in LAC 33:III.111, or intensifies an existing traffic hazard condition is prohibited.
F. Exclusion from Application of this Section. Outdoor burning pursuant to and in compliance with the terms of a variance granted by the administrative authority is excluded from the application of this Section
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:29 am to
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The front that’s pushing through protecting us from Idalia will be bringing in low humidity dry air hopefully we get a big soaker this afternoon before that does

I'm seeing 0% chance of rain in merryville today
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4596 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:37 am to
Yep unfortunately most of it will stay east towards Lafayette
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 11:38 am
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5171 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:55 pm to
No one burns their waste. They only burn campfires, lol
SMH
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22956 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:29 pm to
I hope all baws living in the area are safe. Is there any word on what caused the fire?
Posted by LSUGreg
Gonzales
Member since Jan 2006
680 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9483 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 5:11 pm to
I think the no burn order of August 25 said don’t burn anything. Nothing. Nada. Zip.

No fire. It’s not hard to understand. If you understand and accept no.
Posted by TexasTiger33
a/k/a Young Scooter McGoldsworth
Member since Feb 2022
14773 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:21 pm to
are y'all getting haze from these wildfires around louisiana?

it happens here in TX from time to time
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24133 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:48 pm to
I've seen this type fire tornado, they were pretty static. It was in a very old black carbon dump behind the Sterlington plant. Very impressive sight.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4596 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:56 pm to
We were last week this week even with a north wind I don’t see much haze
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104406 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 8:22 pm to
We had it over the weekend
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 8:56 pm to
Here's an interesting graphic. Nationwide we are way below average acres burned for the fire season. That number of human caused fires is alarming.

Posted by AcadieAnne
Space Force Cadet 1st Class
Member since May 2019
1792 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:00 pm to
Just got word from relatives that the one near Houston River Rd in Sulphur started back up.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104406 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 10:44 pm to
My father says when he was a boy he could sit on his porch at night and see woods fires burning all around. Arson was a common way of getting revenge if you thought you had been wronged, especially by a timber company or absentee landowner.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71858 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

My father says when he was a boy he could sit on his porch at night and see woods fires burning all around. Arson was a common way of getting revenge if you thought you had been wronged, especially by a timber company or absentee landowner.

Believe it or not, that is still sort of a problem these days in certain parts of the world. Many of the fires in Greece and Italy this year are suspected to have started with people trying to burn out land to force a sale of it. I read a little on some of it a while ago. Quite a few arson arrests were made relating to those fires.

That graphic doesn't just mean arson, though, it accounts for any human-cause start, whether arson, negligence, or just accident.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
3121 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 11:47 pm to
quote:

are y'all getting haze from these wildfires around louisiana?


The sun shining through the smoke. It’s like an Amber ambience.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 11:47 pm
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4658 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 12:47 am to
I remember the old timers talking about burning the woods every year to keep down
the ticks.
Posted by Tiger Ike
SW Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
1667 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:52 am to
quote:

Just got word from relatives that the one near Houston River Rd in Sulphur started back up.


Smoke has been heavy in the air since 8 last night.
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