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re: Wife of St. Tammany parish fire chief killed by bullet, not the fire

Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:36 pm to
Posted by RobWILpip
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:36 pm to
From a friend who was tagged in or commented on) all of her posts
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/13/17 at 10:38 pm to
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A small point, but...
The coroner's office had two pathologists conduct autopsies out of, for lack of a better term, an abundance of caution. Preston's office determined the manner of death was homicide, cause was gunshot wound.
The independent pathologist has conducted an autopsy, but I'm not sure if he/she has issued their report yet. I do not believe Dr. Preston is privy to these autopsy results, as of yet.


Ok, thanks for clarifying that. There are so many names going around that i don't know half the time who is who in all of the autopsies and such as far as the public coroners, pathologists and the one hired by Nan's family.

It's good to have so many people on the case when it seems like it came so close to just slipping past justice.
Posted by White Roach
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:26 am to
I believe there are only a few options for manner of death on a death certificate:
Natural, Accidental, Homicide, Suicide and Undetermined. Maybe I'm missing a couple.

We don't know what was found at the site. But, presumably, the firearm used in her death (or at least A firearm) must have been near the body, or suicide would not have been considered.

I believe the house burned completely down. That leads me to believe her body was severely burned. I don't know how the coroner could differentiate between suicide and homicide. It seems like tissue damage from the fire would make it impossible to test for gunshot residue on her hands or head. If it really was a shotgun (or other long gun) maybe they were able to determine that her arms weren't long enough to reach the trigger and she didn't use her toes or a tool to discharge the gun.

If she was killed with a pistol, unless she was shot in the back of the head, I don't know how they could tell between homicide and suicide. Obviously, the Coroner's Office saw something to lead them to call it homicide.

It sure sounds like Krental is a despicable person, but that doesn't mean he murdered Nanette. Being an a-hole and a cheater doesn't necessarily make you guilty of murder. Preston ruling the manner of death as homicide isn't going to put Krental in prison. The Sheriff and District Attorney are going to need more evidence than Krental having an affair to get a conviction
Posted by RobWILpip
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 7:43 am to
That's why we are not scientists. Science does not act on "feelings" or what we believe/ presume as logic. Science is science and factual.
You would be amazed with what FACES can do. The coroner also said "Based on info from fire marshal".
Krentel said last night that they can't keep quiet forever, meaning now he agrees with murder..
I don't know or can not/will not say he would not be the 1st husband to murder because of an affair.
This woman needs justice and a homicide ruling is even more frightening to know there's a murderer still free..
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 7:48 am
Posted by redneck
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:09 am to
I just got an email from WWL saying that the husband/police chief has been cleared
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:23 am to
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Stephen Krentel, the St. Tammany fire chief, has been cleared in the death of his wife, Sheriff Randy Smith said on Thursday.

"Krentel has been fully cooperative with this investigation from the beginning," Smith said during a press conference.

Smith clarified that he didn't dispute the coroner's ruling of homicide, but was concerned about the timing of the release of the information. Krentel was fatally shot in the head before her Lacombe home became engulfed in flames in July.

The investigation is ongoing, Smith said.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:32 am to
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I just got an email from WWL saying that the husband/police chief has been cleared


How can anyone be ruled out at this time when it has only been 24 hours that it was ruled a homicide?

Something is awry here.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:36 am to
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How can anyone be ruled out at this time when it has only been 24 hours that it was ruled a homicide?


He's been cleared of committing murder. Doesnt mean he wasnt involved/planned/etc. Just means he wasnt the one that actually did it.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:56 am to
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I don't know how the coroner could differentiate between suicide and homicide.

No smoke particulates in the lungs, which indicates she was dead before the fire started, although there must be more because technically she could have started the fire and shot herself before the fire/smoke grew.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Stephen Krentel, the St. Tammany fire chief, has been cleared in the death of his wife, Sheriff Randy Smith said on Thursday.

"Krentel has been fully cooperative with this investigation from the beginning," Smith said during a press conference.

Smith clarified that he didn't dispute the coroner's ruling of homicide, but was concerned about the timing of the release of the information. Krentel was fatally shot in the head before her Lacombe home became engulfed in flames in July.

The investigation is ongoing, Smith said.



Ok, what about his brother "B"? I have already brought him up because he allegedly had serious issues with Nan to the point that there was talk of a restraining order and his past is full of encounters with the law.

I still am not convinced about ole stevie being a choir boy in this. Nanette was murdered. I have heard NOTHING to indicate this being a robbery or any other motive for this murder and fire. WHO had anything else to gain by killing Nanette and burning the house (ie evidence)

Sure, Steve could have been far away and established an alibi but we don't know WHEN Nanette was shot and that fire could have been started many hours before it finally caught and engulfed the house, giving him time to go get someplace else. Plus the fire would also have covered her precise time of death and destroyed a lot of evidence. (Some of the greatest arsonist have been firefighters)

So sheriff smith truly believe stevie is innocent and finally has had to admit it IS a case of murder yet seems unconcerned that there is a killer/arsonist running around? Naw, Smith knows something or has an idea of who this is and brother "B" is looking pretty good as a suspect.



This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 12:57 pm to
Having no smoke particulate in her lungs doesn't necessarily rule out suicide. She could have lit the fire, held her breath and pulled the trigger. She could have rigged a timing device to start the fire after she shot herself. I'm sure the more criminally minded could come up with more explanations. Did anybody see the movie "Gone Girl"?

I'm not saying I believe either of the above scenarios to be true. But without more compelling and incriminating evidence, any half decent defense attorney would present a plausible scenario(s) to a jury that would reach the threshold of reasonable doubt.

The sheriff can get up in front of the media and say anything he wants. Detectives can lie to a suspect when interviewing him/her. Krental might still be their prime suspect and they're just trying to lull him into a false sense of security. Or maybe Krental has an airtight alibi, although it seems like we would have heard about that before now.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:15 pm to
An interesting comment on the story about Steve being "cleared". It is from the "Concerned citizens of St Tammany" FB page.

quote:

We the Public, would like a clear explanation of why Sheriff Smith discounts not one, but three independent forensic conclusions that Nanette's death was a Homicide.

There is still NO mention of the alledged decapitation of one or more of the Family pets, whether a Firearm was recovered from the scene, or what the many security cameras along the very long driveway have revealed.

Steve's father owned and operated a very well known security company and had the BEST of cameras on the Private Property. Why was a former St. Tammany Fire Dist. #12 employee that is currently employed with the Louisiana State Fire Marshalls Office as an Inspector allowed to lead the Investigation? He is an Inspector, NOT an Investigator.

Lets discuss these topics at length to rule out the many scenarios. Or, turn the case over to the FBI. I find it odd that there are way too many conflicts of interests in this case. Nanette's Family deserve closure and the case brought to Justice without prejudice.



The people of StTam are not happy with Smith. Smith looks like he will be a one time wonder because he wont get voted in again. But hey, at least he will have his friend Steve to keep him company.

The above commenter knows damned well what he is talking about. He knows the Krentel family, has ties to the FD, and all of the history as he is firmly ingrained in it all as a St Tam citizen who has roots going back for generations.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:42 pm to
I have absolutely no inside scoop on this story. A FB friend went to HS w/ Nanette and she's all up in arms about her death. And seemingly, rightly so.

Smith didn't say it WASN'T a homicide, just that Krentel was cleared. IMO, that means absolutely nothing. Maybe the sheriff really cleared him of suspicion, maybe he is covering up for him, maybe he's trying to fake him out. Who knows?

I'm no security system expert, but do most systems record/download to offsite storage? I'd assume the primary storage device was onsite and burned with the house. If it was stored offsite, or "in the cloud" as my fricking computer geek friend says, it seems like the cops would have found this. Multiple security cameras along a long private drive surely must have piqued the interest of investigators. On the other hand, they were Krentel's cameras. He had them put wherever they are. Don't you think he would be smart enough to avoid being caught by his own security system?

Does the Fire Marshall's Office have separate Inspector and Investigator job positions? It seems like there would quite a bit of overlap in the two roles. The only fire inspections I've had personal experience with were conducted by the local fire dept and by what I thought were fire fighters from the local station. I could be wrong about that though.

It seems to me that if the Sheriff's Office or the Fire Marshall's Office had some type of solid evidence, Krentel would be behind bars. Maybe they're covering up for him, but that seems like a stretch. Maybe his investigator friends give him the benefit of a doubt on a questionable fire for insurance proceeds, but to cover up a murder? I'm not that good of a friend to anyone.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:46 pm to
there was a local interview of him and he mentioned how he has volunteered himself for polygraph testing and such, not sure if its already been done or what.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 4:36 pm to
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there was a local interview of him and he mentioned how he has volunteered himself for polygraph testing and such, not sure if its already been done or what.


A psychopath can beat a lie detector. Steve knew about the extensive cameras on his house and was smart enough to be loooong gone when the fire became visible. Afire can smolder quietly for HOURS until it finally catches and engulfs the house. based upon the house being totally engulfed I would figure it had to be smoldering for a long time.

I wonder who was the last person to be seen on camera?

*Please know I am never attacking or fighting with anyone's opinions. I welcome the different points of view and the fact that everyone is showing an interest in this case,. More interest than Sheriff smith, that's for sure. I am truly thankful for everyone's input, info and opinions on this.

Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 4:50 pm to
I'm pretty sure to a serial cheater and obvious narcissist, a lie detector would be a piece of cake.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:05 pm to
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I have absolutely no inside scoop on this story. A FB friend went to HS w/ Nanette and she's all up in arms about her death. And seemingly, rightly so.


i do have family ties to steve in a few ways. I was raised with him and his called his parents my aunt and uncle. I also have other family ties to him that i wont mention as i have no desire to be "outed". But I am very fired up about this case- even if I had no ties to whoever is in it. i have been deeply involved in researching a LOT of crimes. This case stinks to high heaven and everyone can see it. Smith is a fool.

quote:

Smith didn't say it WASN'T a homicide, just that Krentel was cleared. IMO, that means absolutely nothing. Maybe the sheriff really cleared him of suspicion, maybe he is covering up for him, maybe he's trying to fake him out. Who knows?


Yep all that carefully worded stuff is BS. WhyTF is there no mention of steve's brother "b" and the restraining order (if there was one). If B is involved, what would steve do?

quote:

I'm no security system expert, but do most systems record/download to offsite storage? I'd assume the primary storage device was onsite and burned with the house. If it was stored offsite, or "in the cloud" as my fricking computer geek friend says, it seems like the cops would have found this. Multiple security cameras along a long private drive surely must have piqued the interest of investigators. On the other hand, they were Krentel's cameras. He had them put wherever they are. Don't you think he would be smart enough to avoid being caught by his own security system?


Oh I think he is smart enough t set it up so makes him look innocent. I seriously believe he is a psychopath. The fire was to cover up the evidence of who killed her - to destroy the time of death, injuries, etc.

quote:

Does the Fire Marshall's Office have separate Inspector and Investigator job positions? It seems like there would quite a bit of overlap in the two roles. The only fire inspections I've had personal experience with were conducted by the local fire dept and by what I thought were fire fighters from the local station. I could be wrong about that though.

It seems to me that if the Sheriff's Office or the Fire Marshall's Office had some type of solid evidence, Krentel would be behind bars. Maybe they're covering up for him, but that seems like a stretch. Maybe his investigator friends give him the benefit of a doubt on a questionable fire for insurance proceeds, but to cover up a murder? I'm not that good of a friend to anyone.


Well i think there is more to the story. If stevie really gets investigated properly there will be other things uncovered. The ties in St Tam run deep. I am tied to stevie in 3 different ways so i know it is the same with others who are involved. So if steve is guilty and they investigate and find other crimes (such as in the FD) then it becomes a HUGE mess for everyone. So it is best to just brush it aside and act like it was just a suicide or some BS.

Posted by tigerbutt
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:29 pm to
Kill this thread for Christ sake.
Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:31 pm to
No Steve, we will not kill this thread.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39285 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 5:31 pm to
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Having no smoke particulate in her lungs doesn't necessarily rule out suicide. She could have lit the fire, held her breath and pulled the trigger. She could have rigged a timing device to start the fire after she shot herself. I'm sure the more criminally minded could come up with more explanations. Did anybody see the movie "Gone Girl"? I'm not saying I believe either of the above scenarios to be true. But without more compelling and incriminating evidence, any half decent defense attorney would present a plausible scenario(s) to a jury that would reach the threshold of reasonable doubt.


Yeah that's why I said
quote:

although there must be more because technically she could have started the fire and shot herself before the fire/smoke grew.
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