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re: Why would anyone build a new house?

Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:31 am to
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2366 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:31 am to
Cause I would have NEVER found a house with the land if I would have kept looking. I bought land, I built a house. Yes it's a 6 month headache for a home I'll live in forever. Brand new everything that I won't have to worry about some shady plumbing/electricial/applicances, etc. Yea I made the right choice.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
22737 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:33 am to
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Even full brick/stone houses these days look bad to me. Because instead of actual structural walls, it’s still just a veneer on 2x studs. It looks like it came out of a box. Very little new construction looks as good as a home built 60+ years ago that’s been well maintained.


How do you think they made most brick homes 60+ years ago? Do you think they just build straight brick wall 10' high and they stuck a roof on them?




That's exactly how every home in my neighborhood built 60 years ago is built. They're all structural brick walls and you can tell easily compared to any new construction in the area that is also brick.

They're built with a double wythe brick structural walls on the exterior, no veneer/air gap.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 10:35 am
Posted by bengalman
In da Country
Member since Feb 2007
3808 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:40 am to
Well I am enjoying the building of my 1st and last home with my contractor who has previous experience and can communicate well and is organized. So far so good as well on product availability. The only shocker was the HUGE increase in lumber which allowed me to drink heavily one weekend.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25947 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:44 am to
Went through this last year. We worked with an architect and developed blueprints. We put a deposit down on a 3 acre tract of land in an estate subdivision development outside Baton Rouge.

Then Hurricane Ida hit and delayed approval of the subdivision. And I noticed some concerning things about the area related to drainage that lead me to believe that our chosen plot of land might not be ideal for our forever house. And since I'm not fond of alligators or mosquitos, I wasn't wild about the proximity to a large retention lake that the local government required.

Then the finalized estimates for the house came back at about $220/square foot, which we could have dealt with if the builders were confident that they could actually complete it before July 2022. Both of the builders we were working with expressed concerns getting materials and parts, and noted that construction could take 12 months easily. And we had to be in Louisiana for July 2022.

Then we happen to come across a listing in a great neighborhood for a house that had everything we wanted. It's walking distance to a lot of amenities, but still sits on a large 1+ acre lot. It was built in the 1960s by a builder known for excellent work, and it was designed by a semi-prominent local architect. Everything but the extra bedrooms had been completely renovated. It's in an area that has never flooded as long as humans have inhabited the region, which is damn rare find in Louisiana. And we closed on it in October with 2.7% @30 fixed.

TL:DR; building a house right now is damn frustrating. There are very few larger lot subdivisions appropriate for custom homes being developed in the region right now.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25947 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:46 am to
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Yes it's a 6 month headache for a home I'll live in forever.


6 months for a custom home? That definitely didn't happen in late 2021/2022. The lead time and availability for some materials are sketchy right now.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 10:48 am
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
34344 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:48 am to
I’m a big fan of older houses. The one we’re buying has a double brick exterior with tongue and groove walls.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
21680 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:53 am to
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For some reason I first read this as sunrise and was like shite you have a problem


Well we have seen the sunrise while drinking on the other side of the house.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:12 am to
If you have the money why wouldn’t you build a house?

This is one of the dumber threads of the day
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 11:13 am
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6853 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:18 am to
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They always get something wrong in the blueprints or there is a terrible price misunderstanding.


Tell me you’re poor and trying to buy too much house without telling me you’re poor and trying to buy too much house.
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1560 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:27 am to
You are a contractors worst nightmare. You’re paying him to do it when you should’ve built it yourself since you know everything.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:52 am to
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If you have the money why wouldn’t you build a house? This is one of the dumber threads of the day


Location, there are very few lots available in most desirable areas, and most people have a housing budget that will not handle the usually more expensive route of doing a tear down.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96583 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:54 am to
There’s a ton of terrible contractors out there these days.

It’s not a bad experience if you use a reputable company. Don’t cut corners and be cheap
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
30469 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:56 am to
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and not some cookie cutter house that looks exactly like all the others around.




Not all older houses are cookie cutter spec homes that look the same as every third or fourth house on the block. Especially older houses in historic parts of town.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11115 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:10 pm to
I am building now for the second time. It is pretty stressful but... you get what you want.

Right now the cost to build is close to existing home prices. People will usually opt to build like they want (new) vs existing if the costs are close.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44036 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:11 pm to
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went smoothly and I ended up with exactly what I wanted. A 3400 sq ft walkout ranch orientated so I can watch the spring and fall sunset through the valley while drinking bourbon.
Wyden?

Pics?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
21680 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 1:03 pm to
Nope. In Iowa









Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Very little new construction looks as good as a home built 60+ years ago that’s been well maintained.


For reference, a 1960's home

Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2366 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 2:54 pm to
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6 months for a custom home? That definitely didn't happen in late 2021/2022


Concrete poured in May 21, moved in November 21. 2800 total sq ft. I live in a smaller town if that helps anything. But we ordered everything we needed to the second we signed the contracts.
Posted by Skeeterzx190
Ponchatoula
Member since Sep 2019
278 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:12 pm to
I built my house 4 years ago! No issues. I subbed out maybe 50% and did the other 50% myself. Built exactly what I wanted on my terms and had instant $70k equity in it.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/27/22 at 3:28 pm to
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the answer is they want a house on their terms, and not some cookie cutter house that looks exactly like all the others around.


There are very few unique home designs among custom houses. Even at the $900k to 1 million price point which is still a lot of house in my area the houses all have similar designs, features, and finishes to the point they are “cookie cutter”. Maybe it is because everyone in a area used the same designer, or group think where everyone wants to have what their friends have.
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