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re: Why ‘Swiss Made’ on your watch doesn’t mean what you think it means
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:41 am to The Third Leg
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:41 am to The Third Leg
quote:terrible take.
Yeah, you’re probably right. Tons of people out paying thousands of dollars for something that is entirely superfluous in the modern world for the knowledge they own the artistic output of a dying craft. They’re status symbols 99/100 times.
I know it's shocking but not everyone shares the same hobbies.
I grew up with watches from a very young age and appreciate the details and engineering that goes into the various complications that comprise a proper timepiece.
I'm 100% sure you don't have any hobbies that you spend thousands on.
My favorite watch is a bronze Zenith pilots watch and I guarantee I'm not wearing it to impress anyone but myself because it makes me happy. Nobody except maybe hardcore watch geeks would even recognize it.
I also build arcade cabinets and have $15k worth of carbon bicycles.
Why do you care what others enjoy?
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 8:43 am
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:47 am to Joshjrn
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And even if they do, unless it’s a Rolex, that person will likely have no idea what they are looking at. I could walk around a hundred thousand dollar watch on my wrist and absolutely no one would notice unless they were a watch geek. Further, I could walk around with a well made replica and absolutely no one would be able to tell the difference while it was on my wrist.
Women don't wear diamond engagement rings so men notice them, and men don’t wear watches so women notice them. If you don’t notice the watch, you’re not the intended audience.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:48 am to CAD703X
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I grew up with watches from a very young age and appreciate the details and engineering that goes into the various complications that comprise a proper timepiece.
You are the exception, not the rule. For every one of you, there’s a hundred guys who just want a fancy piece of jewelry.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:48 am to The Third Leg
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Women don't wear diamond engagement rings so men notice them, and men don’t wear watches so women notice them. If you don’t notice the watch, you’re not the intended audience.
What percentage of men would you say would notice an A. Lange & Söhne on someone’s wrist at conversation distance?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:53 am to Joshjrn
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What percentage of men would you say would notice an A. Lange & Söhne on someone’s wrist at conversation distance?
It’s probably very low among the general population, very high in the watch community. Among people that can afford it, probably quite high.
I’m not a watch guy. I’ve never heard of it.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 8:55 am
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:55 am to TechBullDawg
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I've made a mistake in investing in Swiss made Invictas
I’ve got a couple Movados so I feel your pain. I still wear them every once in a while.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 8:57 am to The Third Leg
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It’s probably very low among the general population
I would agree.
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very high in the watch community
Also agree, but the watch community is quite small, relatively speaking.
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Among people that can afford it, probably quite high.
Among people that can afford it, they likely don’t need a wristwatch to signal that level of wealth.
Again, I’m not saying it can’t be a status signal; I’m saying it’s a really bad one, all things considered.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:01 am to The Third Leg
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Among people that can afford it, probably quite high
Nah, I don't even think that's accurate. You'd have to be a watch person, wealthy or not. Rolex is the only thing that gets any "widespread" recognition and even that is a very far stretch.
I a small number of wealthy people and of the ones who wear watches, probably at least half of them wear a Rolex, and the other half wear smart watches. I can't recall any of them wearing another luxury brand.
ETA: on further thought, it's probably 85% smart watch and 15% rolex nowadays.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:30 am to The Third Leg
quote:i do get that along w/ the 'bourbon bros and golfcart bros' so i don't totally disagree with that.
For every one of you, there’s a hundred guys who just want a fancy piece of jewelry.
but someone like obtuse puts his money where his mouth is. he freaking has a clean room where he takes apart those microscopic springs and doohickeys and cleans and reassembles the movements.
the guy freaking loves it.
i am not on that level but i do the same thing with bike components; i have the tools to pull apart the individual rear cogs into solvent, meticulously clean them with a toothbrush and put it all back together along with one drop of oil on each chain link.
its a thing of beauty; shimano makes gorgeous components, and nobody on planet Earth gives a shite but me about how well my bike components shine when i'm done.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 11:52 am to The Third Leg
I buy guns and watches for my heirs. More of the former. Maybe they'll use them to impress someone. Impressions aren't bad, though. I only try to impress my wife and kids, maybe a few buddies on the course. But I freely show myself to be impressed if I see something that impresses me. I find any other way at least moderately insecure.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:04 pm to Loup
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where are you buying these? just getting lucky at pawn shops or ebay?
Pawn shops, thrift stores, vintage watch FB groups, flea markets, fb marketplace, yard sales...etc. Even get lucky at jewelry stores on rare occasions.
I have a gorgeous 60s Omega Seamaster DeVille that should arrive today, with its original bracelet, that I paid 1/3rd of current retail for. Its serviced too.
Same package has a late 60s Bulova Sea King Day-Date that I only paid $60 for.
I am a cheap reseller compared to many of my cohorts. I try to live in the under $300 per watch market.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:08 pm to VaBamaMan
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Pawn shops, thrift stores, vintage watch FB groups, flea markets, fb marketplace, yard sales...etc. Even get lucky at jewelry stores on rare occasions.
I have a gorgeous 60s Omega Seamaster DeVille that should arrive today, with its original bracelet, that I paid 1/3rd of current retail for. Its serviced too.
Same package has a late 60s Bulova Sea King Day-Date that I only paid $60 for.
I am a cheap reseller compared to many of my cohorts. I try to live in the under $300 per watch market.
How do you verify that they are authentic? I'm fascinated with automatic watches.
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I am a cheap reseller compared to many of my cohorts. I try to live in the under $300 per watch market
Where do you sell? Is this an ebay thing?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 3:15 pm to Loup
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Where do you sell? Is this an ebay thing?
I avoid ebay because of the fees. Generally have to price watches way higher than I want to. I mostly sell in the vintage watch FB groups. If you want to email me I can invite you to the main one. rowrowrowedhisboat@gmail.com
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How do you verify that they are authentic? I'm fascinated with automatic watches.
Most of the time these older brands arent faked. Especially stuff like Hamilton, Bulova, Elgin, Benrus, Enicar...etc. With most Omegas of this age the worry is more about frankenwatches than fakes. Watches where someone has pieced together parts from 3 or 4 watches that had faults to make 1 good one. The Speedmasters have always been faked, but there are ways to tell. Stamped instead of engraved lettering on the case, or the painted dial lettering is off....etc. Speedmasters live above me for now though. lol
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:18 pm to CAD703X
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Obtuse has entered the thread
Posted on 10/6/25 at 6:58 pm to Obtuse1
Damn man. That awesome!
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:19 pm to Obtuse1
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That is better directed to Broke
Breitling has really stepped up their game on movements. The days of tooling a Venus and calling it their own are gone. They have really great movements and have invested a ton of money in it. With that said, the plastic shite they charge $3500 for is disgusting to me. Don't sell plastic watches as a luxury brand. And i like the plastic watch to be honest
Posted on 10/6/25 at 7:22 pm to Ingeniero
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You'll have to excuse my pleb opinion, but these suckers are UGLY. I think Obtuse has one too but man I can't bring myself to like them
No worries this is a widely accepted sentiment outside of the hard-core watch world. I bought an Ocean7 LM7 because I couldn't afford the 10 grand they were when I fell in love with them. Now they are in my price range and I've always wanted it.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:20 am to Gifman
My tongue draggng the ground.
I have this one already.
Love this one.
I have this one already.
Love this one.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:21 am to CAD703X
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Watches aren't meant to be pretty
I actually meant "ARE" meant to be pretty.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 7:48 am to VaBamaMan
Just shot you an email, thanks.
I've seen those quite a bit when looking at Seiko #5s on ebay. I don't really know enough about them to feel comfortable gambling on them at this point.
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more about frankenwatches than fakes
I've seen those quite a bit when looking at Seiko #5s on ebay. I don't really know enough about them to feel comfortable gambling on them at this point.
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